Jersey Jack Pinball

"Jersey Jack really is at the lowest it's ever been... in those three years Jersey Jack pinball the one game people actually bought you've refused to finish the code on Guns N' Roses. I think it's embarrassing. I think you should be ashamed of yourselves"

Jersey Jack is at the lowest point ever and needs to finish GNR code

"Jersey Jack, you need to wake up. You need to create a loyalty program around your collector's edition buyers. Jersey Jack pinball in its freaking 10-year history has not figured this out yet. Jersey Jack, wake up. It's been a decade. I will give you my number. Call me."

Jersey Jack needs to wake up and create loyalty programs for CE buyers

"Are you really going to tell me that both Jersey Jack Pinball and Chicago Gaming Company can even be compared to Haggis Pinball within a country mile? Are you kidding me?"

Jersey Jack Pinball and Chicago Gaming Company are not comparable to Haggis

"I wonder if they are yanking stuff out. I think Jersey Jack needs to go the other direction. They need to be put in more stuff in. It's that simple."

Jersey Jack needs to add more features, not remove them

"You got to turn off the freaking multiballs every single freaking two minutes. And then you got to finish your code and you got to make the games look sexy... you idiotically jacked the prices up on two games. Nobody really wanted who thought that was a good marketing move."

Jersey Jack needs to fix multiball frequency and finish code properly

"Steve Ritchie needs to knock it out of the park for Jersey Jack. We're going to need to see this Ryan McQuaid game because the Deniz Norman 1 didn't live up to expectations."

Jersey Jack Pinball gets C grade - Steve Ritchie needs to deliver, Dennis Nordman game didn't meet expectations

"Like right now they're making games for nobody. Like nobody's asking for these themes. Nobody's asking for these games. They're in big trouble, ladies and gentlemen. They are not going to sell 2000 Godfather pinball machines. No way."

Jersey Jack Pinball making games for nobody with unwanted themes

"Jersey Jack, you were supposed to be the chosen one, Jersey Jack! You have the higher ground, you've got all the money, you've got all the time to just make one game great! And that is ultimately the saddest part about JJP. They spend forever to make one game amazing, and when they come up short, it really is embarrassing"

Jersey Jack Pinball is embarrassingly disappointing despite advantages

"When are they going to finish the code on their machines? How is there any excuse for a company like this not to finalize the code? They've had 20 months of feedback on Guns N' Roses pinball. How to make it better? How to balance it out more? Have they released a single final code update for GNR after 20 months? Nothing. Nada."

JJP doesn't finish code on their machines - leaves customers hanging

"they pick arguably some of the weirdest themes for Pinball. Let's think about the theme selection for Jersey Jack Pinball and remember that the primary target for Pinball purchases are men 40 to 60 years old."

JJP picks weird themes that don't appeal to target demographic of men 40-60

"I give this company a C rating, just a C rating. It's mediocre to me. And it hurts me to say that that Jersey Jack Pinball is delivering what I consider to be a product now that is not living up to anybody's expectations of where we thought Jersey Jack Pinball would be this many years later in the pinball industry."

Jersey Jack Pinball gets a C grade - mediocre company not living up to expectations after 12 years

"Jersey Jack machines is skin deep. Because when you get into the game play and you actually start flipping the game, Jersey Jack games just don't feel as good as stern machines. The flippers have been mushy for almost a decade."

JJP makes beautiful machines but gameplay is skin deep with mushy flippers for a decade

"I would argue that Jersey Jack should have always been targeting the high end collector. They failed at doing that. Now they're charging high end collectible prices, but they don't have the product to back up the pricing. You know, no collector is like, oh yeah, like Godfather CE and Toy Story CE, it's not what people want. It's not what a high end collector wants."

Jersey Jack failed at targeting high-end collectors

"I think all thousand of these games sold through to distributors, now that does not mean that distributors have buyers for every single game, but I think distributors realized early on a very simple thing, if they want to get the next hot game from Jersey Jack Pinball, they're going to have to maintain their allocations of collector's editions"

Jersey Jack Pinball didn't actually sell 1000 Godfather CEs to individual customers - distributors bought many without confirmed buyers

"We've seen what they got with freaking Willy Wonka with Pirates of the Caribbean. We've seen how they get these like lunchbox license deals. The same thing with Toy Story. They didn't get a lot of clips from the movie. There's no audio synced up with the actors in the films."

Jersey Jack Pinball gets inferior licensing deals that lack movie clips and synced audio

"I'm going to just make a guess. I think Jersey Jack Pinball is making more like a hundred to a hundred and fifty games a week. I think that's kind of where they're at. Maybe on a good week, it's up to 200."

Jersey Jack Pinball has low manufacturing capacity, estimated 40-150 games per week

"It does feel like you're stepping into a casino in Vegas. You're hearing like this non-stop music and chimes and beeps and all of these sounds and the lights are always going off... It's just like everything louder than everything else."

Jersey Jack games assault the senses and need to tone down the sensory overload

"I think Jersey jack only really had a cool factor with Guns N' Roses. And then that cool factor got erased when the playfield started falling apart. And Jack Guarnieri told everybody that it's the owner's fault that their playfields were falling apart."

Jersey Jack Pinball hasn't recovered from the Guns N' Roses playfield controversy

"And if there's one company that can take an amazing theme and absolutely whiff on it, it's Jersey Jack Pinball."

Jersey Jack Pinball struggles to execute on great themes properly

"After seeing Jersey Jack Pinball's last two offerings and how they're taking all the magic mechanically out of the games, do you even want Jersey Jack Pinball to make Harry Potter?"

Jersey Jack Pinball's recent games lack mechanical magic and proper assets

"Godfather prices are really starting to sink on the LEs. And I'm starting to see the LEs now be already around $10,500 and they're not moving."

Jersey Jack Pinball games are losing significant resale value

"I think this company needs a big game. I think they need a big title. I think they've lost their mojo. I think they've had two lukewarm games in a row."

Jersey Jack Pinball has lost their mojo with two lukewarm games in a row

"I don't believe parts equal mechs. I don't believe shots equal toys. No, we need to put real things back into pinball machines."

Jersey Jack should focus on mechanisms over parts and shots

"You want to make this premium pinball machine. You sell the most expensive pinball machine in the current marketplace... If you're going to make an accessory to sit on top of a $12,000 product and then you want to make a crappy $200 flat plastic topper, how does this even get past the initial concept?"

Jersey Jack Pinball consistently makes cheap, low-effort toppers for expensive machines

"I really think Jersey Jack pinball has lost its mojo. It's lost its swagger. These two games were not it. Guns N' Roses was the pinnacle of Jersey Jack's swagger before Mirco torpedoed it with bad playfields"

Jersey Jack Pinball has lost its mojo with recent releases

"look, you have to give Jersey Jack credit. They're making the games. There are Scooby-Doo machines available. There are Foo Fighter machines that are going out the door left and right."

Jersey Jack Pinball deserves credit for consistently making games available

"It's not about Eric spinning the fact that there's twice as many parts in Godfather as Pirates. Come on, come on, a screw's a part, right? A little diverter's a part. Like you don't get to count those things. It's not the number of parts that matters. It's again, it's not the quantity. It's the quality of what you're creating with those parts."

Jersey Jack should go back to making loaded games instead of counting parts

"I don't really feel like they have much of a marketing department. We know Ken Cromwell does communications for Jersey Jack Pinball, but I don't think Ken Cromwell is selecting the themes... It is Jersey Jack himself."

Jersey Jack Pinball lacks proper marketing department - Jack makes theme decisions himself

"I don't think we've ever seen this before in the history of pinball theme selection, where someone picks the fourth installment of a movie that is by far the least popular"

Toy Story 4 was a massive marketing mistake - worst movie choice in pinball history

"It's almost like they can make cavalier marketing decisions. That won't pan out because both of these companies are not self-sufficient. They're not accountable for the decisions they make. They are being bankrolled by other people's investments."

Jersey Jack and American Pinball make cavalier decisions because they're bankrolled by investors

"Jersey Jack Pinball, and I mean this when I say it, it's not that they've overpriced themselves, is that they under-themed themselves, and they did. They under-themed their games for these prices."

Jersey Jack Pinball under-themed their games for the high prices

"But mark my words, people. If Jersey Jack Pinball had back to the future, or the Matrix, or Top Gun, or Karate Kid, I could go on and on and on, or Die Hard, or Fifth Element, I could go on and on and on."

Prediction: If Jersey Jack had better themes like Back to the Future, Matrix, Top Gun, etc., they would be more successful.

"When you just stare down at the godfather it looks like the most barren Jersey Jack game to date... It almost takes a while to get used to standing over a Jersey Jack game that is pretty wide open like the godfather"

Jersey Jack's Godfather looks barren and overpriced compared to previous JJP games

"jersey jack is pricing these games as if every game is pirates of the caribbean... these games have a third of what pirates had in it mechanically"

Jersey Jack Pinball games are overpriced with minimal mechanical features

"Jersey jack is the one company and I mean and I'm not trying to beat a dead horse with these guys or horse head in bed they got the pricing all wrong they just went too high"

Jersey Jack has pricing completely wrong and customers are waiting for discounts

"Nobody saw Godfather. Jersey Jack did a good job keeping that game under wraps. Nobody saw freaking Foo Fighters. They did a great job keeping that game under wraps."

Jersey Jack Pinball did excellent job keeping Godfather and Foo Fighters secret

"Jersey Jack has blocked me and banned me from their Facebook pages. I got in a back and forth with Ken Cromwell because I made fun of Pat Lawlor and he told me to grow up"

Jersey Jack Pinball blocked Kaneda after conflict with Ken Cromwell over Pat Lawlor criticism

"If you buy a $12,000 Godfather, you're starting out 6,000 plays behind someone who buys a Stern Pro"

Current pinball pricing is unsustainable - operators are being priced out

"you can't enjoy a Jersey Jack game on location other than really Guns N' Roses... a complex rule set or a deep one, like Godfather, you're really going to have to play it in a home environment"

Jersey Jack games are too complex for location play - only work in home environment

"Jersey Jack's first two Eric games have real mushy flipper feel. Fixed. It's fixed. It's better with Toy Story. It's still not as good as a stern machine. I mean, it's just not."

Jersey Jack Pinball has mushy flipper feel that's fixed but still not as good as Stern

"something has happened at JJP. JJP as a company is not the same company that made Pirates... In a very bad way"

Jersey Jack Pinball has declined significantly since Pirates - no longer the same company

"Jersey Jack Pinball is turning itself into a company that is really only making games for a subculture within the Pinball culture"

Jersey Jack makes overly complex code that only appeals to a subculture within pinball

"There is no reason to buy the LE in this game. Everything you're really going to want, right? The real package is in the Collectors Edition. And if you have $12,000 to buy a non-essential pinball machine, you definitely have $15,000."

Jersey Jack's pricing strategy is flawed - no reason to buy LE when CE exists

"If you think that this game is loaded and packed, do me a favor, turn off this podcast right now because I want you to live in your own selective world. I want you to live in your delusional world in which this game is packed and loaded."

Godfather pinball lacks major mechanisms and doesn't deserve to be called 'loaded and packed'

"when I saw this game what it felt to me like is that Jersey Jack Pinball is now just another stern, and they were never supposed to be just another stern"

Jersey Jack Pinball has become just another Stern instead of the premium loaded company they promised

"Jersey Jack Pinball is like the role-playing game for pinball fanatics... I just don't think that's pinball, I think pinball can be deep, but Jersey Jack just always feels like they over bake it"

Jersey Jack games feel like over-baked role-playing games that are too complex to explain

"I think they need to say we are going to make in total no more than 2,500 Godfather Pinball machines. We are going to make 500 collector's editions and only 2,000 LE's and that's it for all time."

Jersey Jack should limit production runs to create exclusivity and value

"There is no way in a million years I would buy this game right away. Like if you are interested in a Jersey Jack machine, there is no way on day one I would ever order a game again from this company."

Never buy Jersey Jack games on day one due to quality and market value concerns

"I'm really worried about Jersey Jack Pinball, ladies and gentlemen... Jersey Jack, you got to wake up. It was kind of embarrassing that all you thought you could do this week was put out your like acknowledgement that it's Godfather and get ready to have a seat at the table. What are you doing?"

Jersey Jack Pinball is in trouble and needs to step up their game urgently

"If you're Ken Cromwell and if you're David Fix, you need to get something together, people. You need to get some excitement and hype"

Jersey Jack Pinball and American Pinball need to respond quickly or get lapped by Stern