Jersey Jack Pinball
company"If Stern made this game, I think people would be a lot more harsh on it."
If Stern made Avatar instead of JJP, people would be much harsher on it
"Jersey Jack games have simply like nerfed theme integration because they've got whatever theme it is, they show you the movie clips with these like muted scenes. And it's removing all of the excitement. It's removing all of the moments that made those movies magical. And they're replacing it with just like callouts that are telling you what to shoot."
Jersey Jack Pinball has ruined theme integration by using muted movie clips without sound effects or actor callouts
"Jersey Jack has a polish and a presentation to their games that are unrivaled by anybody else in pinball. There is just nothing like walking up to a JJP game for the first time. It is absolutely stunning."
Jersey Jack Pinball has unrivaled polish and presentation in pinball
"Jersey Jack has the greatest light show in the history of pinball... You all wish, all you Stern fanboys wish that you were able to implement the Jersey Jack lighting system into your stern machines"
Jersey Jack has superior lighting systems compared to Stern's archaic 10-year-old system
"They really needed a hit right now. They really needed a game to get everybody to see what they're capable of, and I don't feel like this is going to be it"
Jersey Jack needed a hit and Avatar won't be it
"Jersey Jack Needs To Go Back And Make The Entry Level Of The Game Somewhere Around $10,500 And The Collector's Edition 13,000"
Jersey Jack needs to dramatically lower Avatar pricing to succeed
"Jersey Jack hasn't really wowed us with what's been under the glass really since, I mean, let's be honest, like what's physically, mechanically been under that glass, they have not wowed us since Pirates of the Caribbean."
Jersey Jack Pinball hasn't delivered mechanical wow since Pirates of the Caribbean
"we all know that Jersey Jack moronically never builds the CEs first, in fact they always make the CE owners wait months before those games go on the line, sometimes they make them wait so long that by the time the CE even hits the line the interest in the game is even gone"
Jersey Jack moronic approach of making CE owners wait months is terrible strategy
"there's absolutely more demand for Jack Danger's uncanny X-Men than a Mark's side in Avatar, there's no way you can make a thousand Avatar CEs... this is not Harry Potter, it's not Back to the Future, it's not The Matrix, it's Avatar and I think they need to read the room a little bit"
Avatar doesn't have demand like Harry Potter/Back to the Future - JJP should only make 500 CEs
"stop trying to win on volume, your games are just unique, I do think they're special, I would make only 500 CE's and I would make 1500 LE Platinum's and that's it, $2,000 of each game and then we're on to the next"
Jersey Jack should stop trying to win on volume - make only 500 CEs and 1500 Platinums
"If I were them and I saw this move, I would cut back the number of Avatar CEs. I would make it 500. I think there should only be 500 CEs of any Jersey Jack game moving forward, especially at $15,000 a pop."
Jersey Jack Pinball should reduce Avatar CE count to 500 units at $15,000 price point
"Jersey Jack did it with three lukewarm themes in a row"
Jersey Jack had three lukewarm themes in a row
"Jersey Jack Pinball is making games for Jack Guarnieri and Leonard Abbas and nobody else"
Jersey Jack Pinball makes decisions without market research and doesn't understand their demographic
"And the door is wide open now for Jersey Jack. If I was Jersey Jack and I was watching Stern stumble with all of these moves and you have a new game coming out in September, Jack, hit now."
Jersey Jack should capitalize on Stern's current weakened position
"This game is not a hit. They have not sold more Elton John's than they sold of Guns N' Roses. They didn't sell more Elton John's than the Hobbit. They didn't sell more Elton John's than Wizard of Oz. Elton John did not sell as many as Toy Story 4."
Elton John is not actually a hit despite Jersey Jack's claims
"You've never really done it. You've never really put it all together. You got close a few times, but you never did. And if you make the Matrix, it better be Matrix 1"
Jersey Jack Pinball needs to finally deliver a complete game with Matrix
"he said it is no other than Margaritaville a Jimmy Buffett pinball machine"
Jersey Jack's next game might be Margaritaville
"but you heard it here first on Kaneda's pinball podcast that I am thinking that Jersey Jack's next games are either going to be the Matrix or Margaritaville don't go canceling your subscription I mean you have to be chuckling wherever you are right now"
Prediction: Jersey Jack's next games will be either The Matrix or Margaritaville.
"Jersey Jack needs a hit next, it's been three sales flops in a row for the most part, right? Toy Story, The Godfather, and Elton John are not sales juggernauts."
Jersey Jack has had three sales flops in a row and needs to simplify Eric's designs
"Jersey Jack will bombard you with 18,000 lights... But when you really do look at the game and you say, hey, is this game pulling me in? The same way that Godzilla pulls me into a pinball experience."
Jersey Jack games shoot well but are empty and don't pull you in emotionally
"I think Toy Story, Godfather, and Elton John have been really empty games for the amount of money Jersey Jack charges for their machines."
Jersey Jack games are overpriced and empty despite good shooting
"they haven't had game, in three straight launches, that have launched, right, I mean, all three of their game, Toy Story four, the Godfather, and Elton, John, they were all, sort of, dead, on arrival"
Jersey Jack's last three games were dead on arrival
"Jersey Jack Pinball can make the most beautiful games that suck, that they're not fun to play. I hate to be so strident, but they've made some beautiful games that just don't work. Like you don't want to marry them. Beautiful women that are terrible in bed. That's been the JJP experience"
Jersey Jack has made beautiful games that are not fun to play
"There is no pinball machine in modern times that looks as good and feels like it's somewhat worth the money as a Jersey Jack machine"
Jersey Jack makes the best looking machines that feel worth the money in modern pinball
"Yet through the entire tenure of this company's history, Jersey Jack Pinball hasn't really fired on all cylinders."
Jersey Jack Pinball has never fired on all cylinders despite having superior lighting, mechanics, and coding depth
"I think Jersey Jack has great momentum going into the second half of this year... if I had to put my money on who it's gonna be over the next four months... I think it's gonna be Jersey Jack"
Jersey Jack Pinball has the best momentum going forward
"These things are like jaguars from the 80s. They don't work right out of the box"
Jersey Jack machines are like unreliable luxury cars
"You will have the glass off more than you will be playing the game in the first week"
Jersey Jack older machines require extensive setup work
"I really hope that Jack Guarnieri and the folks over at JJP call up Butch and bring him back. I know he has missed being there ever since he left because he had so much pride in what he did."
Jersey Jack should bring Butch Peel back now that Pat Lawlor is gone
"He said, Chris, I think when you see our next titles, you are really going to see this company hit its stride. And it's like, okay, wow, okay, it has been 10 years. So it's taken a while for this race horse to hit its stride."
Jersey Jack needs to hit their stride after 10 years - requires better themes, design, software support
"This is kind of embarrassing for Jersey Jack. Zero innovation when it comes to online connectivity. In fact, they removed score bit from all of their games and they haven't replaced it with anything."
Jersey Jack has failed to innovate in software and connectivity
"Jersey Jack pinball has raised the bar on how nice a pinball platform can look and Stern pinball machines look so dated next to them"
Jersey Jack Pinball machines look better than Stern machines
"I think Jersey Jack should say from here on out and they should say it right now, we are only gonna make 2,500 games per title regardless of what the title is"
Jersey Jack should limit production to 2,500 games per title to build premium brand exclusivity
"Now, if I were Jersey Jack, and I heard that Stern Pinball lost the Indiana Jones license because they didn't want to pony up the money. If I'm Mr. Abbas and I'm a billionaire, I think Indiana Jones would be a great game for Jersey Jack to make."
Jersey Jack Pinball should pursue Indiana Jones license since Stern won't pay for it
"It's so funny to me. It's like 10 years of Jersey Jack pinball. And they finally make a game that's fun to play. Finally, no mushy flippers, no over-the-top multiball, no bad design. They finally make a game that's really fun to shoot."
Jersey Jack finally made a game that's fun to play after 10 years
"It's so lazy compared to what Jersey Jack is putting into their games"
Jersey Jack Pinball produces better quality upgrades than Stern
"I feel like Jersey Jack Pinball has the only light show that would do this sort of techno rave hitman music justice. It's not going to work with Stern Pinball."
Jersey Jack would have been better suited for John Wick's techno music and theme
"That the margins, and this makes sense, but the margins on a Jersey Jack machine are more than 50%. Okay. Which makes kind of sense when you think about it. So they've got a $15,000 CE and a $12,000 Platinum. Now that means that the bomb on Elton John is probably somewhere in the vicinity of $6,000 or less."
Jersey Jack Pinball has margins over 50% on their machines
"Jersey Jack doesn't do that. It's like all these weird like beta drops of code. I don't even know what number it's on. I don't even know what number signifies it's going to be done."
Jersey Jack's code release process is confusing compared to Stern's numbered system
"Imagine if Jersey Jack said to everybody like four years ago, we've got the following themes that we can make into a pinball machine. We've got Toy Story 4, we have Elton John, we have the godfather, and we have Guns N' Roses... There would have been almost no votes for games like Elton John and the godfather and Toy Story 4."
Jersey Jack Pinball has made poor theme choices that would have failed community polling
"Just think about that for a minute. For four years, they've been getting feedback on how to make this game better. And what did they do? Did they continue to work on the game? It was their best selling game of all time. And what did they do for owners of that game who had it for the last three and a half years? They did nothing."
Jersey Jack failed Guns N' Roses owners by taking 4 years to finish code
"here's my worry about Jersey Jack they always mess it up they always do you know i asked a very simple question yesterday what was the last Jersey Jack game that just got it right"
Jersey Jack always messes up their games and doesn't integrate themes properly
"You know me. I think this company should make no more than 2,500 of everyone of their titles. There should be 500 CEs and 2,000 LEs. And that's it. Make every single Jersey Jack game a special thing to stand in front of. And they won't do it."
Jersey Jack Pinball should limit production to 2,500 units per title to maintain brand exclusivity
"It's a lot easier for you to justify spending it on a Jersey Jack machine because it's such a higher caliber machine. It is the materials. The damn thing weighs a hundred and twenty pounds more than a Stern. Why do you think that is people? It's a much more solid build."
Jersey Jack superior build quality justifies higher prices over Stern
"Are you listening, Jersey Jack? You can't make a movie anymore in modern pinball times and not have the actors and the voices synced up. Like Jaws is all synced up perfectly with Stern's machine. We're done. We're done with these like muted clips. Like they don't work. Either you get it done or you don't do it at all."
Modern pinball movies need synced audio or shouldn't use clips at all
"you would think Jersey Jack Pinball would basically get a game to New York considering that New Jersey, you're called Jersey Jack, you should have at least set up a game somewhere in New York City to get people on it, get people excited, they've done no such thing"
Jersey Jack should have set up Godfather games in NYC for exposure
"Jersey Jack's had two flops in a row and you might even say they've got three potential flops in a row and it's not that Elton John is a bad game, it's just not selling"
Jersey Jack has had multiple flops and pricing issues
"Jersey Jack is a company where they haven't shown us yet that they will finally complete the code on a game... But they've shown us historically they won't finish that last 10 percent."
Jersey Jack Pinball historically doesn't finish game code completely
"for the first time in forever, I can say that a Jersey Jack machine shoots as well, and the gameplay and the flippers shoots as well or better than any stern ever made"
Jersey Jack Pinball finally made a game that shoots as well as Stern
"Eventually Jersey Jack is going to connect all the dots. They're going to put all the pieces together and it's going to be Top Gun, Matrix, Harry Potter, Beastie Boys. And when they do do that, they will be able to command these prices. Stern Pinball will not."
Jersey Jack will eventually justify their prices while Stern will not