Jersey Jack Pinball

"Jersey Jack did it right. They paid for everybody's travel. And they didn't demand we like sign an embargo. They didn't even demand we say nice stuff about the game... they made a class act. That's how you do it."

Jersey Jack Pinball handled media events properly by paying for travel and not demanding embargos

"Jersey Jack has been making games just for him. Nobody would have greenlit Toy Story 4. Nobody. Nobody would have said make the godfather. Nobody would have picked Avatar."

Jersey Jack makes games only for himself, not the market

"A Jersey Jack game still looks twice as expensive as a Stern. It does. Like I whenever you guys are like, you know, it's a bit nice. Guys, this just on pure materials, quality of like everything. It just when you stand over a Jersey Jack machine and then you go look at a Stern. It's like going from a Bentley to, I don't know, like a Hyundai."

Jersey Jack Pinball games look twice as expensive as Stern games

"If I were to tell you that spooky pinball and Multimorphic are putting more toys in their games than Jersey Jack pinball and charging a lot less money wouldn't like if I were to tell you that like four years ago you'd be like you're crazy. Look how many toys are in evil dead. Look how many toys are in Avatar."

Spooky Pinball and Multimorphic are putting more toys in games than Jersey Jack while charging less

"You can have number 500 out of 500 even though they wrote it as 400 then crossed out before and put a five. Really embarrassing Jersey Jack"

Jersey Jack quality control issues are embarrassing

"On those two games you lost between twelve and thirteen thousand dollars if you go to sell it today. I haven't even lost that much money on a Dodge Demon over six years."

Jersey Jack resale values are terrible

"my overall feeling with the Jersey Jack games is they they lack soul and it's something that is really sometimes hard to describe and it's also something very personal for each and every one of us I just feel like their games sometime are over baked and over produced to a point where they become a little sterile and confusing."

Jersey Jack games lack soul and are over-produced to the point of being sterile

"Jersey Jack games have been empty, empty. Avatar is empty. There's not a single toy in it. Godfather was empty. Guns N' Roses doesn't even have toys. Elton John doesn't really have toys. They've been putting empty games for 12 to $15,000"

Jersey Jack games have been empty of toys despite high prices

"Jersey Jack pinball ships their games. They don't reveal a game until the code is pretty much complete. And then they make you wait six years for the final wizard mode that you're not good enough to ever see. But that's always been their MO, right? 99% done on day one and still 99% done on day like 900. I don't know why they do it that way. I don't know why Keith just can't finish the last question on the test, but that's how they do it."

JJP's development process is flawed - games stay 99% complete forever

"I just don't think Jersey Jack is gonna knock it out of the park. I want them to, but their track record isn't great."

Jersey Jack track record not great for Harry Potter success

"if you talk about a company who needs a hit way more than Stern pinball needs a hit it is Jersey Jack pinball. And the reason why is Jersey Jack hasn't had many hits."

Jersey Jack desperately needs a hit more than Stern and Harry Potter is their biggest opportunity

"none of those games have been worth $12,000 to $15,000."

Jersey Jack's recent games haven't been worth $12-15K

"Jersey Jack is cutting costs while they're charging more for their product... Jersey Jack games, when you lift the hood on them, are empty. And they're 12 to $15,000."

Jersey Jack Pinball has been cutting costs while charging more, with recent games lacking toys

"They always find a way to mess it up, right? They've never done the other thing, right? They've never done the other thing and like exceeded our expectations. They didn't exceed our expectations on Willy Wonka. They didn't do it on Hobbit. They didn't do it on Toy Story. They didn't do it on Godfather."

Jersey Jack Pinball consistently disappoints and fails to exceed expectations

"What we're not seeing is anybody lower prices... manufacturers are going against their own map pricing and they're basically now destroying the second hand value of their own product."

Jersey Jack putting Toy Story 4 on sale destroys second-hand market value

"Because like since then, since David has left Jersey Jack, their games have sounded like slot machines. And they just don't come at you with nearly as much richness and soul and the sound. It's all been a little tinny and metallic."

Jersey Jack games sound like slot machines since David Thiel left

"Cake toppers, ballerinas that look like 30 cent figures in Elton John. Cake toppers and Toy Story people. Remember when they tried to deny that? And then you go online and they're on Amazon for like eight bucks. You put $8 cake toppers into a $15,000 machine."

Jersey Jack puts $8 cake toppers in $15,000 machines

"if they made a black pearl edition of pirates of the Caribbean and they made 500 more of them they could sell them for 15 thousand that's a smart that's a smart play for JJP"

JJP should do a Black Pearl edition Pirates run for $15k

"Their new games, when put next to their original games, they look half as full. There's half as much fun stuff to shoot at. They just seemed to lack going the extra mile."

Jersey Jack's recent games look half as full as their original games despite higher prices

"This company feels like they've already moved on from this game... it just feels like Jersey Jack is already sort of cutting bait on Avatar"

Jersey Jack Pinball has given up on Avatar, feels like they've moved on from the game

"Jersey Jack is just like, they're like a, you know, they've got all the resources. You know, it's like a kid whose parents gave him everything... All you had to do was show up, use common sense and put it together and you would have been fine."

Jersey Jack is like a spoiled rich kid who had everything but still managed to fail

"The Jersey Jack platform is the nicest looking pinball machine in the history of pinball. But just because you're rich and you have the money doesn't make you smart. And the moves they've made at Jersey Jack have been anything but intelligent."

Jersey Jack Pinball makes bad business decisions despite having the best platform

"What machine should Jersey Jack have remade right now in the winter of 2024? What is the biggest movie in the world right now that everybody's talking about?"

Jersey Jack should have re-released Wizard of Oz to capitalize on Wicked movie hype

"We don't normally see manufacturers put their own product on sale... This significance of what that's telegraphing is simple. We've got more games than people want. We made too many of these games"

Jersey Jack fire-selling Guns N' Roses LE signals overproduction and market oversupply

"The one thing all of their games are missing. And everybody over there should sit down and hear me out. These games are missing soul. They are missing soul."

Jersey Jack games are missing soul despite having great production values

"They know that Jersey Jack is going to find some way to mess up Harry Potter. They're just going to do it. It's going to have muted clips or they're just going to reskin dial then... When's the last time Jersey Jack took a theme and exceeded your expectations on it?"

Jersey Jack Pinball consistently fails to meet expectations and will find a way to mess up Harry Potter

"Jersey Jack just should make one model. I mean, let's face it. They should just make one model, 1,500 units. It doesn't matter what game it is. It's $15,000 and then just go on to the next."

Jersey Jack should only make one premium model instead of multiple tiers

"I think there's no better way they haven't made a better game since Guns N' Roses. And for those of you who are saying, Elton John's the better game BS, then Elton John would have sold 5,000 units."

Jersey Jack hasn't made a better game than Guns N' Roses

"Jersey Jack is losing. They're not winning. And Jersey Jack losing after like 11 years, they pain me the most. You know, because Jersey Jack is just like, they're like, you know, they've got all the all the resources, you know, it's like, it's like a kid whose parents gave them everything."

Jersey Jack is losing despite having all the resources and advantages

"This tiny little company in Benton, Wisconsin just nailed it. Brett Abyss, living in Miami, flying in once a month, letting Mark side in make Avatar with Jack Quenari's theme selection, missed it. With, struck out at the plate with Avatar, right?"

Spooky Pinball in Benton Wisconsin has outperformed major companies with huge budgets

"You can go to IAPA and buy an avatar for $11,000. So they're already slashing prices on their existing games. And to me, that is the ultimate marketing fail of Jersey Jack pinball."

Jersey Jack discounting Avatar at shows represents ultimate marketing failure

"This is crazy. They're gonna have more toys in a game than Jersey Jack Pinball."

Spooky will have more toys than Jersey Jack Pinball

"Jersey Jack's just lost, they've just lost like people's desires to collect and own every Jersey Jack game, they've just put out too many duds like over the last three to four years"

Jersey Jack has lost people's desire to collect every game

"Heck, big trouble in little China would have sold more. Karate Kid, heck, Bloodsport. I mean this, if you just made Bloodsport, there's more people into that than Avatar. I mean it, within this buying demographic."

Bloodsport would sell more pinball machines than Avatar within the pinball demographic

"put a $12,000 avatar next to a $13,000 X-Man and it's really still night and day in terms of the material quality... Like the game weighs a hundred pounds more and I'm sorry, but it just feels more solid."

Jersey Jack Pinball games have superior material quality compared to Stern

"I went and watched someone who showed us the final pirates wizard mode, and it's the most underwhelming thing I think I've ever seen. I mean you waited six years for that?"

Jersey Jack's final wizard modes are underwhelming

"I don't want you to have dream themes anymore because you don't do them right. You have muted clips. You have the wrong movie... you just find a way to take something that people want and you just do it in a way that doesn't blow us away."

Jersey Jack shouldn't get dream themes because they don't execute them properly

"Jersey Jack's theme selection to me is mind-boggling. It is mind-boggling. And I'm just going to say this. If I was employed over at Jersey Jack Pinball six years ago, this company would be twice the size it is today. Twice the size."

Jersey Jack Pinball's theme selection is mind-boggling and completely out of touch with what pinball buyers want

"Like if Jersey Jack had to survive under its own pinball sales merits, they'd be out of business like three titles ago. They wouldn't even have made it past the Hobbit."

Jersey Jack would be out of business if they had to survive on pinball sales alone

"Nobody in the pinball world would say that Jersey Jack makes games that are more fun than what you're getting from Stern pinball. I think everybody would say they make the most beautiful games. So they're making the most beautiful games, but they don't have the most beautiful personality."

Jersey Jack makes beautiful games but they lack personality and don't pull you in

"What's the killer mech in Toy Story? What's the killer mech in the Godfather? What's the killer mech in Elton John? What's the killer mech in Avatar? I don't think Jersey Jack has made a killer mech since Pirates of the Caribbean. That's six years ago gang. That's five games ago."

Jersey Jack hasn't made a killer mechanical feature since Pirates 6 years ago

"I don't think Jersey Jack has made a killer mech since Pirates of the Caribbean. That's six years ago, gang. That's five games ago."

Jersey Jack hasn't made a killer mech since Pirates of the Caribbean

"Remember six years ago Jersey Jack was putting a lot into their games. Their games were loaded. They were like the company that didn't leave stuff out and they went the extra mile. Since then, they've done the opposite. They've started to strip their games down."

Jersey Jack has declined in quality and stripped down their games

"I think Jersey Jack needs to wake up. You either have three tiers or if you're going to do two tiers, you need to have just a pro and a limited edition game... 5,000 versions of a $12,000 machine is absolutely a name and stupid... I just don't think Jersey Jack machines are collectible. They really only have one machine. One machine that's worth collecting and that's Pirates CE."

Jersey Jack's business model is terrible - making 5,000 LEs at $12,000 is stupid, and JJP machines aren't collectible except for Pirates

"I just don't get the sense at Jersey Jack that they're testing these products the way they need to, and that they're getting the feedback... you've got to find a way to get your company connected to the right kind of feedback"

Jersey Jack needs better feedback systems and leadership

"Jersey Jack should become the company that it needs to be, which is limited high-end games. I still think Jersey Jack should never even say in a million years they're going to make 5,000 units of anything. They need to stop that. They need to say we're going to make 500 CEs and maybe 2,000 LEs, and that's it."

Jersey Jack should focus on limited high-end games instead of competing on volume

"Jersey Jack's pricing model is not going to work. It just doesn't work. You can't have $12,000 be the base model because only a sucker would spend that much knowing that there's so much more in the CE for $15,000. But then nobody wants to drop $15,000 because there's a good chance it's going to be worth 10 in like six months"

Jersey Jack's pricing model doesn't work

"These modern games, they've become so complex. Like when Jersey Jack gives you this huge rule set and they think that's like something to celebrate. No, that is not what Pinball is about."

Modern pinball games are too complex with overwhelming rule sets

"Jersey Jack Pinball, I heard they spent $100,000 on the launch video. And I'm going to get people more excited for this game with just a free Audacity software program, because it's not about polish."

Jersey Jack spent $100K on launch video while Kaneda creates more excitement with free software

"The beautiful Jersey Jack game that's so stunning to walk up to. And then you play it and it's a little bit soulless and a little bit heartless and it doesn't have the personality, right? It doesn't have the call outs. It doesn't have the synced up video with the voices."

Jersey Jack games are visually stunning but soulless and heartless in gameplay