Star Wars
game"As we all know, Star Wars just was an abysmal failure"
Star Wars pinball was an abysmal failure
"People. In 2025, this game comes out and has almost nothing in it. John Borg himself admits to rushing this game in eight months in eight month design cycle."
Star Wars got blowback because it's barren compared to Data East version despite 8-month rush
"Star Wars was a humongous disappointment. One of the biggest, greatest IPs of all time, and they butchered it."
Star Wars pinball was a butchered disappointment despite being one of the biggest IPs of all time
"I dropped two curse words which I never do, making fun of this stern topper for Star Wars, which is absolutely atrocious. They should be ashamed of it."
Star Wars topper is absolutely atrocious and Stern should be ashamed
"When you see like a big property like Star Wars. And you see the stuff already. Stop already. Stop. Stop making Star Wars again. Stop making Star Wars again."
Star Wars should stop being remade in pinball
"Like that playfield looks like trash. And I'm allowed to say that. Like I'm sorry guys, you're selling a $13,000 product... you think that Star Wars artwork looks great. Yes you know what that's on you but I don't does anyone like the Star Wars playfield artwork anybody."
Star Wars playfield art looks terrible and cheap
"it's going to have so many scopes in this game it's going to make your Star Wars look like the Costco piece of crap that it is"
Star Wars pinball looks like a cheap Costco piece of crap compared to what Beetlejuice will offer
"Star Wars is terrible. I don't frequently say a Stern machine is terrible. But Star Wars is absolutely terrible."
Star Wars pinball is terrible - Stern's worst recent game
"I'm so embarrassed. Cause I know the backstory on Star Wars... But the problem with Star Wars happens instantly. Cause it just looks so cheap. And when you walk up to it, and it just looks really cheap, instantly, it's like you're looking for more reasons not to like it."
Star Wars looks cheap and is an absolute uninspired rushed game that Stern should be embarrassed to release
"It really is one of the most uninspired, boring Pinball machines I've ever played. After getting so many creative games over the last five years in terms of layout and geometry, when you hop on Star Wars, it feels like the game wasn't even finished."
Star Wars pinball machine is one of the most uninspired, boring games ever made
"Keith Elwin just launched a flop. Star Wars... how could the biggest pinball company have the biggest theme and make a mediocre game? Because it was designed by committee. It was designed with politics, internal politics made this game what it was."
Keith Elwin's Star Wars game is a flop that was designed by committee with internal politics
"There should be three Star Wars games. A new hope should be its own game. Empire its own game. And Return of the Jedi its own game. And you should have had Keith Elwin do every one."
Star Wars should have been three separate games, one per movie
"I'm happy you guys are gonna lose $4,000 in just a couple months and I'm happy to see that the Star Wars LE's are not sold out I'm happy that the majority of people don't consider that game to be special enough to spend that kind of money"
Star Wars buyers will lose $4,000 in value quickly and majority don't consider it special enough for $13k
"If you have four average pins, it doesn't add up to a great experience. And so I guess this is just what it's always going to be. We're just never going to get an amazing Star Wars game."
Star Wars pinball games are all mediocre and having multiple Star Wars games doesn't create a great experience
"the reason why I know this game is not selling very well I don't have official numbers but I know a reason why and this only happens when a stern game isn't selling very well I start to hear from people at Stern"
Star Wars (Fall of the Empire) is not selling well and won't create FOMO
"Stern pinball, this is not a $13,000 product. They don't have the product to justify the cost."
Star Wars is not worth $13,000 and fails to justify Stern's pricing
"If you buy an L.E. for $13,000, I think your game is going to be worth $10,000 in just a few months. And I think you're also going to lose $2,000 to $3,000 on the premium."
Star Wars LE and Premium will lose significant value quickly
"So the more I see it, the more I think this is in operators dream come true. I think this game is going to kill it on location... I think the diehards in us are those of us who have been following pinball for many years who love designs that have a little bit more creativity. This two flipper eight shot fan layout game. It's not really going to win you over and you're probably going to wait for the next game."
Star Wars will be an operator's dream but won't appeal to pinball enthusiasts
"Now that we're on Spike 3, it just didn't feel like a leap forward... what should have felt more like a quantum leap forward just feels like a marginal, a marginal difference when it comes to playing on the Spike 3 platform."
Star Wars Pro feels like a marginal improvement over previous Stern games despite Spike 3 platform
"You've got the lightsabers, the Darth Vader lightsaber, and the Luke lightsaber clashing in the middle of that playfield. And you're telling me that you couldn't have made those inserts. Like, how cool would it have been when you start that mode of them battling that they turn on and they glow like a lightsaber? Nope, it's just static art."
Star Wars missed opportunity with lightsaber inserts that should have glowed
"You ruined the magic. The whole point of a magnet being under there Like I want there to be like a mystery Like the forces being used when you put a pinball there Why did you do that"
Star Wars pinball magnet save implementation ruins the magic by telegraphing what it will do with pinball artwork
"It feels like it was designed in a weekend"
Star Wars pinball feels like it was designed in a weekend and rushed, with nothing that creates a 'wow' moment
"I think it's gonna lose money I think these will go for 10 G's in like three months"
Star Wars pinball will lose money and sell for around $10,000 in three months instead of appreciating
"I have never in my 12 years of reviewing pinball machine launches, I have never been so underwhelmed as I was yesterday."
Star Wars Pinball is a massive disappointment from Stern Pinball
"There is absolutely zero hype for this game. Watching Gomez and Jack Danger play the Costco game as the lead up to this new Star Wars extravaganza. He's just really not doing it for me."
Stern's Star Wars marketing campaign lacks hype and excitement
"I'm just gonna say it. I think Star Wars is gonna be a bust... I think the game is going to be mediocre. I don't think it's going to blow us away now."
Star Wars pinball will be a mediocre bust despite being the biggest IP in pinball
"Star Wars LE will sell on the second hand market immediately for $18,000. I just don't know what to tell you. It's going to sell for $18,000."
Star Wars LE will immediately sell for $18,000 on secondary market
"If I don't like what I see I will sell this game for more than I paid for it and mark my words and I know a lot of you are mad about this but mark my words. The 770 will sell out instantly. All right instantly now Dan Jansen is just said you're not buying this game Dan I'm buying it and I if I don't plan to keep it."
Prediction: The 770 Star Wars LE units will sell out instantly, and he will be able to sell his copy for more than he paid if he doesn't like it.
"my source says it's OK. And so if it's just OK I'm still here to tell you right now the LE's even though I hate saying this they are going to sell for thirteen thousand dollars. And here's my prediction on the second hand market Star Wars LE's are going to go for eighteen thousand dollars."
Star Wars LE will flip for $18K despite being just 'okay' according to Stern insider
"And so if it's just OK I'm still here to tell you right now the LE's even though I hate saying this they are going to sell for thirteen thousand dollars. And here's my prediction on the second hand market Star Wars LE's are going to go for eighteen thousand dollars. And I'm just here to tell you that like you can hate me but I'm not the one who's going to control this market."
Prediction: Star Wars LE games will sell for $18,000 on the second hand market despite retailing for $13,000.
"the Richie game is a joke. It's got a tie fighter on a spring... it makes me feel like Steve Ritchie never even watched a damn Star Wars movie"
Steve Ritchie Star Wars is terrible and poorly designed
"Steve Ritchie Star Wars is... first of all it was it wasn't designed to be Star Wars from the ground up he that was supposed to be Jurassic Park... the artwork is bad the coding is bad the game is bad"
Steve Ritchie's Star Wars pinball is a bad game
"I hate that game because I love Star Wars. I think Richie's Star Wars is is an abomination of the theme. I think the the shots are too difficult. I think the lack of magic and the toys is pathetic. I think the tie fighter on a spring is is beyond pathetic."
Steve Ritchie's Star Wars is terrible and an abomination
"I keep thinking about it. Like, it's John Borg, it's Star Wars, it's the larger screen. It's Spike 3. This game needs to be a hit. Like, Stern needs to like throw everything they can at it. It needs it needs to be a hit. If I'm Stern, Star Wars LE comes with an exclusive topper. Like, they need to make a move that just gets them back."
Stern's next Star Wars game is critical for the company's success
"Ritchie made a total dog. It is a total miss creatively underneath that glass... The whole game, I believe creatively is a disaster"
Star Wars pinball by Steve Ritchie is a total creative disaster
"We're gonna talk about that, because that would be, in the history of Stern moves, that would be the biggest burn ever. Ever. Because they sold more Star Wars than anything else."
Stern potentially remaking Star Wars original trilogy would be biggest burn ever
"Isn't it crazy gang though if you go look at the stern star wars how completely hideous that game is like it is one of the most ugly games I've ever stood over on every every level. It is so ugly the artwork is atrocious the way the the tie fighter on a spring the lazy screen screen by the targets it is terrible."
Stern Star Wars is one of the ugliest and worst executed pins ever made
"I wouldn't go anywhere near a Star Wars LE. I just don't even like the game. I don't like the artwork. I don't like the TIE Fighter on a spring. I don't like what Dwight did with the code. I don't like anything about it."
Star Wars LE by Steve Ritchie is a bad game
"There's never been a great Star Wars pinball machine. Never. It's just never been one."
There has never been a great Star Wars pinball machine
"I 100% think a Star Wars episode one through three will be a smash hit for Stern. If, if done right with that dual fates music and the theme song... pot racing. I think you got the, you know, the Darth Maul you're going to have Yoda jumping around."
Star Wars Episodes 1-3 would be a smash hit for Stern if done right
"all own and love that Steve Ritchie game was a huge miss... So we have it out in the world and it's just not good."
Steve Ritchie's Star Wars pinball game was a huge miss and not good
"I'm still devastated by how stern butchered the original Star Wars trilogy. Unbelievable."
Dwight Sullivan butchered the original Star Wars trilogy pinball code
"This was the biggest mistake in Steve Ritchie's Star Wars. How do you have Steve Ritchie's Star Wars? How do you have Star Wars? A theme that's all about using the Force. And how do you not have a magnet in your game that allows people to force control the ball?"
Steve Ritchie's Star Wars was a major miss for not including Force control magnets
"Star Wars to me is a total miss for two reasons. The code is just a complicated nightmare... I think is the biggest uninspired creative translation of the biggest theme ever, which is Star Wars"
Star Wars pinball is uninspired and lacks creativity despite great source material
"what the f***? Like, who decides these things?... You'll never see it... It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen"
Star Wars topper with plaque on the back is the dumbest thing ever
"Star Wars is the biggest misgame ever. And there's just no way around it. The game's a mess. The game's a mess. The game was poorly designed. Too hard to get into the hyperloop. The code is a mess."
Star Wars pinball is the biggest mess game ever made
"I think Stern missed a real golden opportunity to make Star Wars an incredible game I just don't think it is one and I all the arguments in the world around like whether or not I'm right or wrong it's all subjective but I love Star Wars I love the movies the potential to just put the most amazing Star Wars world under glass was just missed"
Star Wars pinball game missed its potential
"yes on a value level that Star Wars topper is a complete joke it's like $775 for that like that thing you could go get any major video game council you could go get one of the best phones in the world you could get stuff with actual engineering and actual value put into it and it just moves back and forth"
Star Wars topper is overpriced at $775 with no real value
"You will not see the Star Wars top or it's never happening. They messed up R2D2. He looks like a freaking egg up on top of that machine. It doesn't look like R2D2."
Star Wars topper will never happen because R2D2 looks like an egg, not the actual character
"Star Wars is the number one biggest mistake and biggest like flop in the history of Stern... it's the most popular entertainment franchise of all time. And it was just so poorly thought out on every level"
Star Wars is the biggest mistake and flop in Stern's history despite being the most popular franchise