Star Wars

"I think it looks much better. I think it looks much more fun... This is how it should have been all along. I don't think I've heard anyone say the original art package looks better."

Star Wars new artwork looks much better and is how it should have been all along

"I still think Star Wars is the biggest missed opportunity for the biggest theme on the planet... I still think Star Wars is a total total miss in my book"

Star Wars is still a total miss despite new artwork - biggest missed opportunity

"Star Wars the greatest entertainment property of all time probably translated the worst right in terms of like that movie coming to life in that pin I don't think I could be more disappointed in Star Wars."

Star Wars pinball was the worst translation of the greatest entertainment property

"It's so weird to me watching all these pinball people get so bent out of shape about the Star Wars home edition. It almost makes me want to do a Pinside baby episode because the fact that people can't realize that this game is nowhere nowhere in the ballpark of a game designed for people who are on Pinside who are like die hard enthusiast pinball fanatics."

Star Wars Home Edition criticism from pinball community is misguided - it's not designed for enthusiasts

"when I saw the way Stern diced up Star Wars. Terrible. Terrible way to take that franchise and dice it up. You have a respect to these themes. You have a respect to these properties."

Stern handled Star Wars theme terribly by dicing it up wrong

"Star Wars is one that comes to mind for me, that people were just like... The anticipation to finally have a Star Wars game made it, it was almost impossible for them to live up to it."

Star Wars failed to meet expectations due to impossible hype levels

"Star Wars maybe isn't a game that I think is going to keep someone's interest being new to the hobby... I don't want them buying maybe a game like Star Wars that just what I think isn't the best playfield layout ever made and the best shooting game."

Star Wars pinball is not good for newbies

"What I do know is this. I do find both of those games confusing. I don't find either one of those games to be very intuitive."

Both Star Wars and Pirates of the Caribbean are confusing games that could benefit from swapped coding approaches

"I think Star Wars was probably one of the worst theme integration pinball machines complicated code of all time. I think it's a disgrace that that's the Star Wars pinball game we get."

Star Wars pinball is one of worst theme integrations and most complicated code ever

"John Borg himself admits to rushing this game in eight months. In eight month design cycle. Jersey Jack Pinball has 18 months to make every single game. The typical Stern design cycle is at least like 14 to 16 months."

Star Wars rushed design in 8 months shows Stern's problems

"that's why I think games like Star Wars suck so hard because when you look down at Star Wars, it doesn't feel like a world under glass"

Star Wars is terrible because it doesn't create a world under glass

"Star Wars. I thought it was a clunker to be honest with you. But Batman, I really liked it, which surprised me"

Star Wars was a clunker but Batman 66 evolved into a really good game

"Star Wars will still go down in history as the worst theme integration ever And it's not even Steve Ritchie's fault I mean working with Disney and Lucas on the game was probably an F and Nightmare"

Star Wars had the worst theme integration ever

"Star Wars was an interesting one because it's like when we saw it We didn't want it and I and I I don't think I've ever seen that happen before in pinball We're like the theme was something that sold out before people ever saw it And then when they actually revealed it people bailed"

Star Wars pinball was a massive disappointment that sold out sight unseen but people bailed when revealed

"I think it's the most ridiculous use of inserts and lighting I've ever seen in the game because it's like everything louder than everything else is there... It's freaking almost impossible to get that ball into that into that death star shot it's such an awkward shot"

Star Wars has ridiculous lighting and impossible Death Star shot

"they made a game that is, it's a Steve Ritchie game that is like with Star Wars slapped on top of it. It's not a Star Wars game from the bottom up."

Stern's Star Wars is a Steve Ritchie game with Star Wars slapped on top

"it's much like the same complaints I had with Star Wars it's kind of like Borg had his pinball layout and just dropped the Guardians of the Galaxy theme onto a pinball layout and he started with a pinball layout that he was very familiar with"

Theme integration criticism of Star Wars and Guardians of the Galaxy

"I still think Star Wars is one of the biggest misses in Pinball history. And solely because of the source material and everything they had to work with to create that Star Wars universe under glass, to me is a big fat miss in this Pinball machine."

Star Wars is one of the biggest misses in pinball history despite the incredible source material

"I said a year after Star Wars comes out, you are going to see Star Wars LE's sell for like $6,800... because they made 800 of them. 800 of them. It doesn't feel special. It doesn't feel limited."

Star Wars LE will keep declining to $6800 because they made 800 units - doesn't feel special or limited

"the game is probably the worst theme integration I've ever seen with a game... I get it, the game is fun. It's a fun pinball machine... What I'm saying is it's Star Wars. It shouldn't have just been fun. It should have been the most magical world on their glass. Incredible theme integration ever. And it's not"

Star Wars pinball has terrible theme integration despite being fun to play

"people who bought the LE's without playing it I feel bad for those people because I doubt anyone's gonna start flipping it and say I'm so glad I spent $9,000 on this it's amazing they knocked it out of the park said nobody nobody not even Beasel Boob"

Star Wars pinball is poorly designed and not worth $9,000

"you're willing to overlook the fact that this is probably the worst theme integrated Star Wars pinball machine we've ever had it's also probably the most disappointing Stern pinball launch I've ever seen and it's just a game that is average"

Star Wars is probably the worst theme-integrated Star Wars pinball machine ever and most disappointing Stern launch

"I am so utterly disappointed still in Star Wars. I can't tell you how many friends email me, chat me, text me and tell me how much they don't like their Star Wars. How frustrating it is, how it's a drain monster, how they're really thinking of getting rid of it already."

Star Wars disappointing players, causing quick resales and regret

"I walked away from Star Wars LE. Absolutely 100% disappointed in the game. It actuLe reinforced for me everything I'd been saying about the game."

Star Wars LE is absolutely 100% disappointing and reinforces everything negative about the game

"This game will go down as one of the worst theme integrations ever in pinball. It will be a game that will not be sought after."

Star Wars will go down as one of the worst theme integrations ever in pinball

"I think Star Wars is an okay pinball machine, I think that Star Wars needs to be an amazing machine. I won't own one... but I think it's going to go down as a miss over time."

Star Wars pinball is disappointing despite high expectations

"I think people who buy that game are foolish because they took everything out"

Star Wars LE buyers are foolish for accepting stripped-down premium packages

"I just think the LE this time around stands for loser edition. And by that I mean you're losing all the features that are supposed to be in an LE"

Star Wars LE stands for 'loser edition' - lacks features expected in limited edition

"I like to see things on the playfield. And if you look at Star Wars in there's a lot on the playfield. If you look at Star Wars, it's empty"

Star Wars lacks physical toys and is too empty compared to Dialed In

"I don't even think it's ever gonna fully Sell out... This game is not gonna go up in value"

Star Wars LE will not sell out and won't hold value

"I have to give them credit. That is a really neat thing to see... The Death Star. Just looks really, really cheap. And mediocre. I mean, me, I'm being kind. The thing looks like it's a store bought. cheap little kids toy egg that pops open"

Star Wars Premium hyperdrive is cool but Death Star is cheap and underwhelming

"I just know so many people went in on the LE's. Expecting that they were going to have one. And like the most in-demand games of all time. And they got one. And it's an LE. And that means. Actually it means absolutely nothing now. It's not very limited. It has nothing really special. And I think Stern is cash grabbing on this one"

Star Wars LE is a cash grab with no real value

"And then you go look at both of these Pinball machines, both Star Wars and Alien. And it's just really sad. And I think all of you out there feel the same way that these are not the artistic representations that we wanted for both of these franchises, not even close."

Star Wars and Alien pinball machines fail to represent their franchises artistically despite inspiring incredible artwork

"I think Stern has done something so egregious that I just have to call it out"

Star Wars pinball is egregious, a cash grab lacking immersion

"I think Star Wars is a fun pinball machine. I think it shoots fast. I think it has flow. I think as a pinball game, it's fun. I think as a Star Wars pinball game, it's a complete failure."

Star Wars is fun as a pinball game but complete failure as Star Wars game

"I'm really shocked how many people are buying Star Wars pro the pro is so stripped down it looks like stern the pin the Spider-Man pin if you have fifty three hundred dollars to buy a Star Wars pro why don't you just don't you have two thousand dollars more"

People shouldn't buy Star Wars Pro - too stripped down for the price

"Everything is on a screen. There's hardly anything. Anything that brings those iconic scenes to life physically... There is nothing in it that takes an iconic Star Wars moment and does something physical that brings that world to life. It's all switches, targets, and LCD screens."

Star Wars relies too heavily on LCD screens instead of physical playfield elements

"I fully expect if Star Wars turns out to be such a great game that I'm so wrong on, I fully expect tons of LEs to be for sale, a year from now for $7,500, $7,000. There's so many of them, you're not going to see the value there."

Star Wars LE will lose significant value and sell for $7000-7500 in a year

"the artwork isn't as bad as we all have been sort of screaming about. But it's also still not good... when I look down at the pinball machine, there's just not a lot going on. I mean it's a very, very barren game."

Star Wars pinball artwork isn't as bad in person but still not good - very barren playfield

"I think they wanted to make a tournament players, a pinball player's pinball machine, not a pinball machine that Star Wars fanatics would fall in love with... This game is made for pinball tournament players. It is that simple."

Star Wars is designed for tournament players, not Star Wars fanatics

"I just don't think this Pinball machine even comes close to delivering the world under glass of Star Wars. The magic of Star Wars, I think it's a Steve Ritchie game with Star Wars artwork on top of it"

Star Wars doesn't deliver the world under glass - it's just a Steve Ritchie game with Star Wars artwork

"how can you compare a full feature Dialed In versus a Star Wars Pro which I think looks like one of the most barren pro games Stern has ever released"

Believes Star Wars Pro is one of the most barren pro games Stern has ever released

"I still do think it looks barren I still don't believe that that game captures the magic of the Star Wars universe for me"

Star Wars pinball looks barren and doesn't capture Star Wars magic

"I would argue that Star Wars pro, to me, feels a lot more stripped down than Eris Smith pro because I would argue that the main toy, the main feature in Eris Smith is the toy box, which functions on the pro as well as the premium. But if I look at Star Wars, you don't get the Death Star shot that opens up the Death Star and you don't get the hyper drive."

Star Wars Pro feels more stripped down than AAerosmith Pro

"I don't know, like 85% Steve Ritchie, 15% Star Wars, but so it's Steve Ritchie's Star Wars versus Star Wars by Steve Ritchie."

Star Wars pinball is 85% Steve Ritchie game, 15% Star Wars theme

"But look, Star Wars LE, here's my prediction. Yeah, I don't think it, like, sells out. Like, I don't... There's still available now."

Prediction: Star Wars Limited Edition will not sell out completely.

"I just can't get over a tie fighter on a spring. I can't get over that. I just something something so lazy about that decision that just put a tie fighter on a spring and to just drop an LCD screen onto the playfield like that."

Star Wars pinball design decisions are lazy

"for the price of the LE, I just didn't feel like it looked like a wow game. And once you're getting into that $9,000 price range, I really don't care how good a game shoots. It also has to look as good as it shoots. And I think Star Wars just doesn't for me pop."

Star Wars LE doesn't look good enough for the price point and lacks the premium feel of previous Stern LEs

"I'm baneling on Star Wars LE. I want out. I sent an email to JJ asking how refunds work on the deposits I put down for two"

Canceling Star Wars LE pre-order due to removed features and poor value

"My prediction is I think Star Wars is going to be fun. I don't think Star Wars is going to come anywhere near what you get in DialDin for the money. It is not even close."

Prediction: Star Wars will be fun but won't come close to matching Dialed In's value for the money.