Jersey Jack Pinball
company"You're going to find something that looks very similar to Andrew Heighway. You're going to see Jack in front of machines at his factory with nobody working, with nobody on the line. It's like this, literally it's just like a bigger version of Heighway Pinball. Jack ran out of money on every single title."
Jersey Jack Pinball is essentially a failed business model like Heighway Pinball
"there's a reason why Jersey Jack can't sell out of collector's edition because nobody effing really wants dialed in the hobbit or pirate's the Caribbean as a theme right"
Jersey Jack can't sell out collector's editions because nobody really wants Dialed In, Hobbit, or Pirates as themes
"his margin suck for distributors you know games have issues left and right people have headaches if you're carrying the product line...people who paid on day one still don't have their fucking games a year later"
Jersey Jack Pinball has created a problematic model with frustrated distributors, consumers, and financial issues
"the speculation is that the people building pirates of the Caribbean pinball machines are temp workers...And that is why we're seeing, you know, just a lot of quality control issues"
Jersey Jack may be using temp workers to build Pirates of the Caribbean, causing quality issues
"Pirates the Caribbean was panned by the media and by the critics and that makes it a stupid pinball theme for Jersey Jack to go in on and I still agree with that"
Pirates of the Caribbean is a stupid theme for Jersey Jack
"When you go into the owners thread of pirates of the Caribbean it feels more like a trouble shooting thread than an owners thread"
Jersey Jack has serious quality control issues that hurt sales and prevent consumer confidence
"Jack just hasn't figured it out by now and it's really a shame but it's really at the point now where his entire company all it is is a billionaire that is just playing with someone else's toys"
Jersey Jack Pinball is just a billionaire playing with toys and will shut down
"I like what Jersey Jack is doing where their new emphasis is on just making the greatest games they can make and they're not going to do any FOMO shenanigans and they're just going to like if you want the nicest version of Sonic will make it for you."
Jersey Jack's new strategy of making great games without FOMO tactics is the right approach
"Like this is actually a step backward Dialed in, shipped to consumers much faster after reveal than pirates of the Caribbean"
Jersey Jack Pinball has gone backward - Dialed In shipped faster than Pirates of the Caribbean
"There should be no Jersey Jack Pinball today, all right? If he did not get bailed out, the company would be gone, all right?... I don't believe that Jersey Jack Pinball has ever turned a profit in six, what, seven years they've never made money."
Jersey Jack Pinball has never been profitable and should have gone out of business
"I think he's going to try and pull one on us and slot Toy Story back. Because I think he wants everyone to not talk about Toy Story and then deliver a Pat Lawlor Toy Story. You heard it here first. Toy Story is next. It's not Guns N' Roses."
Prediction: Toy Story will be Jersey Jack's next game instead of Guns N' Roses, designed by Pat Lawlor as a standard body game.
"Jack's trying harder. No one would deny it that Jersey Jack is trying to do it and trying to give you the BLE Williams magic. But here's the thing that they fail to do it. I don't think any Jersey Jack machine really comes close to delivering the kind of magic that BLE Williams games had."
Jersey Jack tries harder but still fails to deliver true Williams magic
"It's not gonna get better. It's not gonna improve. It's not gonna get smoother. You know, they're never gonna ever get to where stern is they're never gonna figure out production the way stern does"
Jersey Jack Pinball will never improve their slow production and release model
"We all know that Jersey Jack is not making a profit, no way. And there's so in the red from all the delays and the lackluster sales of titles that took forever to get out. There's no way they're in the green."
Jersey Jack Pinball is not making a profit
"continuing to make wide bodies I don't know why they do it I don't know why they think wide bodies are the games people want... people like standard body games more they're more fun the shots are closer together it's easier to get the flow"
Jersey Jack should stop making widebody games
"I think they're just trying too hard. And I think their inability to simplify the experience while maintaining you know the Jersey Jack quality... I think this game is the epitome of just putting too much in and not really having a cohesive idea for what this game was going to be"
Jersey Jack Pinball is trying too hard and needs to simplify
"what's happening at Jersey Jack is they've got so much talent they've got so much ability to make these amazing pinball machines and they just don't know when to stop they don't know that the best ideas the best ideas in the world are simple ideas"
Jersey Jack Pinball doesn't know when to stop and overcomplicates their games
"people forget do people forget That Jersey Jack Jersey Jack was bailed out twice the company shouldn't even be around unless they were bailed out Twice like their model didn't work. You know take all this pre order money make people wait for two years three years Yeah, it doesn't work. It just doesn't work"
Jersey Jack Pinball had to be bailed out twice and their pre-order model doesn't work
"Imagine if jack had done what stern has done with deadpool imagine this. Imagine if jack had revealed Pirates of the Caribbean a week ago and imagine if he said the game is gonna ship in a way"
Jersey Jack should have followed Stern's reveal model - showing Pirates early and making people wait a year killed the hype
"how do you justify that it's $3,500 more than in L.E. of Pirate of the Caribbean $3,500... for $12,500 instead of everything being just cosmetic I still think Jersey Jack should put a feature or an item or different modes and code into the game that only those collectors edition people get"
JJP collector's editions don't justify the $3,500 premium and should include exclusive gameplay features
"I commend Jersey Jack for making a hard decision that they knew were going to disappoint people, that they knew were going to hit them in the pocket book, you know, temporarily."
Jersey Jack handled Pirates disc removal well by making hard decision rather than shipping unreliable feature
"i don't mean there's like too much physical stuff in the game i don't think that's the issue i think we're where the games fall down for me is there's way too much in the coding that to understand when you step up to the machine"
Jersey Jack games are too complex in coding and layout, not necessarily in physical features
"I'm sorry, but they never should have inked the deal. And you know what I heard the only reason why they made pirate to the Caribbean. It's because they're billionaire investor like the title. But when they saw what they could use, how did they not say? No, like we can't do this."
Jersey Jack shouldn't have made Pirates without proper licensing assets
"when you look at his games next to Stern, there's absolutely no comparison as to who's building the higher quality machines. All right, there's not without a doubt. I'm not arguing here about fun factor and themes and all that. I'm arguing about just the physical thing that's in front of you. The materials, the engineering, the solidness of the games, all that stuff. I just feel that Jersey Jack is a level above."
Jersey Jack Pinball builds higher quality machines than Stern
"Jersey Jack will never compete with Stern on volume and cadence. What Jersey Jack needs is one thing and one thing only. They need to make every game a hit... And we know that through all of his titles, Jersey Jack has failed to accomplish that simple feat. He hasn't made a game that people just want so badly."
Jersey Jack Pinball needs to focus on making hits rather than competing on volume - they've failed to create games people desperately want
"I've heard this from many people out there is when they sit in a room and you got Jack and you've got Keith and you've got the people at JJP. I don't think they really understand the basic fundamentals of what people want from a pinball game. I want to look at a pinball machine and I want to know what to do without even having to be told what to do."
Jersey Jack Pinball doesn't understand basic fundamentals of what people want
"I'm also still hearing that that company is still pretty much operating in the red... do you think Jersey Jack pinball is making a profit in 2018 and 2017 like profit"
Jersey Jack Pinball is probably still operating in the red despite having games in production
"I think Jack's timing around all of these games that are connected To film franchises, he's completely fucked up every single one"
Jersey Jack Pinball completely messes up timing for movie tie-in games
"They need a game that makes people go, I need to have this game. While I am alive on planet earth, I need to have this game... they have yet to deliver and market a pinball machine that emotionally makes people feel that way"
Jersey Jack Pinball needs a 'must have' game but lacks emotional connection
"the bill of materials was the exact same amount of money as he was charging for the game. So then there's no money for salaries. There's no money for overhead. There's no money for R&D"
Jersey Jack Pinball priced Wizard of Oz at cost with no profit margin
"Now all of you deep down inside know that there is no game out there that gives you as much as a Jersey Jack Pinball machine"
Jersey Jack Pinball offers better value than any other manufacturer despite higher prices
"Without their billionaire angel investor, this company wouldn't be around. They would have gone under doing Hobbit"
Jersey Jack Pinball needs billionaire investor to survive and has fundamental business problems
"Jersey Jack's integration between the LCD and the game itself is phenomenal and they spend a lot of time making it that way"
Jersey Jack's LCD integration is the best in the industry
"He revealed Pirates of the Caribbean in early October... So seven months ago, which means revealing it at Expo in 2017 seems like it was a big mistake... I just feel bad for all the people working on this game because I feel that this was just piss poor marketing from Jersey Jack pinball."
Criticizes Jersey Jack Pinball's poor marketing decision revealing Pirates of the Caribbean 7 months before shipping
"Pirates of the Caribbean has got to just be killing the sales of dialed in... Jack has now released a product nine to ten months before it actually is being made. What good is that?"
Pirates of the Caribbean reveal is killing Dialed In sales - Jack revealed it 9-10 months too early
"Jersey Jack Pinball has a change occurring at the top levels of Jersey Jack Pinball. I'm hearing that the CEO Joe Harbor, he's out. He's no longer part of Jersey Jack Pinball."
Jersey Jack Pinball CEO Joe Harbor is out after two years
"Jersey Jack pricing itself out of business and I would say no they're not they're actually pricing themselves to stay in business... Jersey Jack games are now appropriately price for what you get in those machines"
Jersey Jack Pinball is appropriately priced now, not pricing themselves out of business
"I do think Jersey Jack right now is bringing the best pinball machines out into the world. The only issue that I think they face is I think they they try to go too far with all the games. They put too much in it. They need to focus on making the game as fun as possible and not just jam packing it with as much code and mechs and toys as possible."
Jersey Jack makes the best pinball machines but tries to jam pack too much instead of focusing on fun
"I think Jersey Jack Pinball where his prices are at are very reflective of the quality and the amount of stuff Jersey Jack puts into his machine. I can't say the same about stern Pinball"
Kaneda believes Jersey Jack Pinball pricing reflects quality while Stern's does not
"You got Jersey Jack who is really going to quality approach but he just can't get the license down"
Jersey Jack takes a quality approach but struggles with licensing
"I think Jersey Jack Pinball machines are by far a level above stern machines. There's no denying it."
Jersey Jack Pinball machines are by far a level above Stern machines
"So you basically go after a title that has so many hurdles and red tape for theme integration So why do it again? I don't get it"
Jersey Jack shouldn't have made Pirates of the Caribbean given all the licensing restrictions
"maybe stern understands what they're doing a lot better than we give them credit for because now think about it pirates has been shown it'll never have the hype as big as it did at expo you can't buy it for six months stern comes out says guardians here it is play it boom you can order it today"
Jersey Jack's early reveal strategy backfired - Pirates lost hype while Stern dominates with immediate Guardians availability
"I definitely know that from what I'm seeing with Pirates and from what I've seen from Jersey Jack that Jersey Jack is the company I will be buying. I won't be buying any Stern until Stern shows me they can make games that have the quality I'm looking for in a pinball machine. They definitely have the themes I'm looking for but not the quality"
Kaneda declares Jersey Jack Pinball as the only company he'll buy from going forward, rejecting Stern until they improve quality
"there is one major player out there that is driven by profit and there's another that's driven by passion"
Jersey Jack Pinball is driven by passion while Stern is driven by profit
"without a doubt, Jersey Jack is going to own the show. I mean, let's be honest. Ain't no Batman code going to be great enough to be more impressive than what Jack brings to that show... Jersey Jack is the only company right now that makes games to the highest degree. They don't cut corners."
Jersey Jack Pinball will dominate pinball expo with highest quality games
"Jersey Jack is also the company that has really yet has really yet to check all the boxes and ultimately make a game that is as fun in terms of the theme and the game itself that we want. I think they're always almost there and we're waiting for Jack to just hit it out of the park"
Jersey Jack hasn't made the perfect game yet despite quality
"Jack knows he's got the better product. He just does. And he, I think everybody would agree that a Jersey Jack game is just a better game in terms of quality, in terms of craftsmanship, in terms of innovation than anything that Stern is putting out there."
Jersey Jack makes superior quality games compared to Stern
"Jersey Jack machines are the best modern day machines. There's no denying it. When you put a Jersey Jack machine next to anything else on the market, it's almost laughable and embarrassing. How inferior other games look to a Jersey Jack machine."
"I look at Jersey Jack as trying to put as much as he possibly can into the game for $8,000 and I look at Stern Star Wars and it just feels like hardly anything is going into the game for that price point... look at dialed in dialed in is the same price is Star Wars and has a completely original hand drawn playfield and cabinet package"
Jersey Jack provides better value than Stern at similar price points