Dutch Pinball

"No, because it was inevitable. They're owned by ARA, but the thing is it's not like it's a load of gravel or a bunch of lumber. I mean, it's a pretty specific market if you have a bunch of Pinball machines as a commodity."

Dutch Pinball selling games twice while screwing early buyers was inevitable given their financial situation

"He needs a miracle. He needs pre-order money. He needs a factory. He needs workers. He needs you know, he needs to make sure he has all the parts required."

Dutch Pinball making 100 more Big Lebowski games is basically impossible - they need a miracle

"I want it Dutch Pinball to go away because I want the companies that have done nothing but create pain and agony to leave this industry"

Dutch Pinball should exit the industry permanently

"Now look, the only person he's giving, sorry, giving us this report is Barry himself, a known liar. So take that for what it's worth."

Barry from Dutch Pinball is a known liar and can't be trusted about game condition reports

"This story doesn't end because Barry and Yacht have really fumbled this thing worse than I've ever seen anyone fumble a Pinball company and a Pinball game. Because they just were never honest and just continued to make bad, clearly bad decisions."

Dutch Pinball and Barry have fumbled Big Lebowski worse than any pinball company ever

"Barry of Dutch Pinball, a known liar, a known thief, a known manipulator of people. I would be nervous about writing that check and feeling good that those 40 games are then just going to come and arrive and be working and get there in a timely manner."

Dutch Pinball situation is too risky - Barry is untrustworthy and manufacturing is the wall that hits all wealthy pinball wannabes

"I don't need stupid companies like Dutch pinball like you know failing to deliver or highway or all these other boutiques that keep struggling to get games out the door"

Boutique pinball companies like Dutch Pinball are failing and unnecessary compared to Jersey Jack

"what a joke of an update and I just I want to say the reason why this is a joke is it's now been two years and we are still at step one which is ARA and Dutch pinball trying to figure it out"

Dutch Pinball update is a joke - two years later still at square one with ARA dispute

"I think Beringioff pissed through the initial capital they got from the Big Lebowski buyers. I think they spent the money whether it was on traveling the world with the game whether it was personal salaries whether it was whatever"

Dutch Pinball likely spent buyer money on travel and salaries instead of production

"I'm just going to say the same thing. I said, last year they're done. It's over. This is as over as it gets"

Dutch Pinball is completely dead and over

"I'll tell you what the business model these guys have in place to make more games requires a lot of new orders to come in to pay for all of the new manufacturing they need to make the game's reality. So they need to build the old machines and that is nothing short of a Ponzi scheme business model"

Dutch Pinball operating as Ponzi scheme

"They are really playing Russian roulette with their own customer base... they said they can make 500 and they came up almost like 30% short of that target. That's not good."

Dutch Pinball in crisis over Alice topper issues and production shortfalls

"What Barry and everybody over there at DPX needs to know and DP, your company has a history of saying nothing. And what you need to realize is that silence is toxic. You made it so."

Dutch Pinball communication silence is toxic and must change

"businessmen that fail always fail the same way they blame everybody else but themselves they're the victims it's not their fault... they lied to our faces about the licensing he lied to oric about the artwork he lied he lied he lied"

Attacking Dutch Pinball and Heighway Pinball executives for blaming others

"I think anybody that donates money to this go fund me page is kind of foolish. It to me, it feels like you're throwing your money into a dumpster fire."

Donating to the Dutch Pinball GoFundMe is foolish and like throwing money into a dumpster fire

"Whenever Barry and Yacht Communicate to buyers... They're communicating to people who'd never got what they paid for they always communicate in this really sarcastic like a reverent tone of voice Like they think it's a joke"

Criticism of Dutch Pinball owners for their sarcastic and unprofessional communication with customers

"It is over. Let me repeat that. It is over. Dutch Pinball is done... You're not getting your big Lebowski machine. It's not going to happen."

Dutch Pinball is completely finished and Big Lebowski owners will never get their machines

"What annoys me about this entire communication chain from these gentlemen is very simply, first off, we don't hear anywhere in here. I'm sorry... It's all about how it's a nightmare for them."

Dutch Pinball refuses to take responsibility and keeps giving false hope instead of admitting failure

"if Barry and Yop can you know can make it happen I will and I'm going on the record I will give whoever gets that first game Brenda's looking at me because we got a wedding to plan for I will give that first person $500... that's how confident I am that no big La Lebowski games are going to ship in June of 2018"

Confident bet that no Big Lebowski games will ship by June 2018

"I just really have, can't imagine who still has patience to wait for Alan and the big Lebowski to figure their shit out. I mean, it's a joke. Can we just say it? It's a joke"

Big Lebowski/Dutch Pinball incompetence compared to successful manufacturers

"Isn't it crazy that we put out more podcasts than total number of alien and big Lebowski pinball machines that have shipped to date? We're on episode 208 of Kaneda's Pinball Podcast."

Kaneda claims his podcast has more episodes than Dutch Pinball has shipped games total

"These eternal optimists in pinball. There's another name for those people. You're suckers. You're going to lose your money if you're an internal pinball optimist."

Dutch Pinball situation is a complete disaster and buyers are being foolish

"do you think Dutch pinball is going to make it no do you think Heighway Pinball is going to make it no in the long run no I don't think so"

Black Knight doesn't think Dutch Pinball or Heighway Pinball will survive long-term

"new orders are going to get their big Lebowski's ahead of the old orders I can't I almost can guarantee it... this is the same thing that's happening with alien right now is people who are in on the game for a long time are standing by and watching new people get their games in front of them"

Dutch Pinball and Heighway Pinball will prioritize new orders over old ones due to cash flow needs

"I think that Dutch pinball closes its doors in 2018... the business model these guys have in place to make more games requires a lot of new orders to come in to pay for all of the new manufacturing they need to make the game's reality. So, ostensibly this, they need new money to build the old machines and that is nothing short of a Ponzi scheme business model."

Dutch Pinball will close doors in 2018 due to Ponzi scheme business model

"So here's my prediction. I think that Dutch pinball closes its doors in 20"

Prediction: Dutch Pinball will close its doors in 2018 and there will be an auction of their 40 games in inventory that will sell for $15-20k each.

"Now the last time I checked About how Ponzi business models worked Is that not how it works"

Dutch Pinball's Big Lebowski situation is like a Ponzi scheme with no realistic timeline for delivery

"The things that you should complain about are the companies that have truly, truly fucked people over, like, for real. Like people got fucked over by highway, by Dutch, by Skit B, by John Popadiuk, erase those cancers from this hobby."

Attacking companies that have legitimately hurt customers

"I think Dutch pinball's business plan, as we'll talk about with Blake, is absolute garbage. They basically told people. They told people that our business plan is a pyramid scheme."

Dutch Pinball's business plan is fundamentally flawed and resembles a pyramid scheme

"They wired me back the money and I'm out... I couldn't believe it. And I was like all right. I'm done. I'm out"

Greg successfully got refund from Dutch Pinball through persistence and leveraging Universal licensing concerns

"You guys should not go to Expo... You're spending your customers money to go to Chicago. What the hell's wrong with you guys? Were you like born yesterday?"

Attacking Dutch Pinball for going to Expo while customers wait for games

"These guys rocked into pinball Expo in 2014, like rock stars, making fun of Gary Stern, having all these booth babes, running out the penthouse. Three years later, they're going to come back to Expo with the same exact game that they hopefully have re-engineered to make it more reliable and easier to service. I mean, what a joke. Can we just finally call these guys a joke?"

Dutch Pinball should be called a joke - they're coming back to Expo 3 years later with the same game

"So, burying up, I've invited you on the show. You've said no multiple times. So this is what you get. You're gonna get the thing you don't want to hear. And this is what you need to do. Stay home. Stay home from Expo. Nobody wants to see you anymore."

Dutch Pinball shouldn't come to Chicago Expo - they should stay home and nobody wants to see them anymore

"Mark my words Dutch pinball will not make it this company has built up so much ill will has made so many missteps and communicates It is such a tone deaf manner"

Dutch Pinball will not survive as a company

"enough of the talk, enough of people being asked to celebrate news that is just talk. Like there are no big Lebowski's in production. This is not a moment where I would go drink a white Russian or feel like celebrating with Dutch pinball. It's just an email. It's just an email and it's just words."

Dutch Pinball is completely tone deaf and shouldn't be asking customers to celebrate when no games are in production

"The two companies that I think all of us need to just just say you know what drain the threads the two threads that everyone should drain right now are the big Lebowski and Heighway Pinball threads just drain them"

Recommends draining Dutch Pinball and Heighway Pinball threads for mental health

"now I used to think Dutch was in better shape than highway because I used to say to myself well all Dutch has to do is work it out with ARA and and their ship in games again like games are being made they don't have to worry about their production cap"

Opinion reversal on Dutch Pinball: was "Dutch was in better shape than Highway because they just needed to work it ou...", now "No longer thinks Dutch is in better shape"

"I still think the Dutch pinball is sort of dead in the water. I think they are going to flounder. And I think they are going to draw this out for a really, really long time."

Dutch Pinball is dead in the water and will flounder for a very long time

"they are out of money they don't have the money to give the refunds they said it we cannot afford to give people their money back so the money is gone the money is gone"

Dutch Pinball is out of money and cannot afford refunds

"That was the worst decision ever. It was comical when they were discussing that at T-P-F. Anyone who went in on one, I'll say this. If you went in on Bob 3.0 with Dutch Pimple, you're an idiot."

"I used to think like a month ago that actually Dutch was in a better position than highway because at least like a raise like a professional manufacturer and if they could just get a deal signed they would be okay."

Opinion reversal on Dutch Pinball: was "Dutch was in a better position than Highway because ARA was a professional ma...", now "No longer thinks Dutch is in a better position"

"When they say in this newsletter that only two or three people wanted them to take the deal, I am calling them out as lying that that's the only amount of people."

Dutch Pinball is lying about customer feedback on the ARA deal

"I'm calling on Dutch to accept the terms of ARA. I think what's the worst that could happen?"

Dutch Pinball should accept ARA's hostile takeover terms

"I think Dutch pinball, even if they get the Lebowski's out, I think Dutch pinball is going to struggle to get people to feel confident about their company again."

Dutch Pinball is struggling and won't regain customer confidence even if they deliver Lebowski

"There are absolutely no way in hell of those two companies are going to survive Joe things."

Dutch Pinball and Heighway Pinball are unlikely to survive as companies

"I don't think Dutch has the money to pay a R.A. That's my assumption of this situation. And so far I think my assumption is right because I'm not seeing any LaBouskis go out and I'm not seeing any games being made."

Dutch Pinball owes ARA money and can't pay, which is why Big Lebowski games aren't shipping despite multiple meetings

"I don't like being lied to. I don't like feeling like I've been taking taking advantage of my patients being taken advantage of."

Confrontation with Dutch Pinball over lying about Big Lebowski delays

"they were both understandably upset with me that I told people to go sue Dutch pinball"

Frustrated with Dutch Pinball's lack of communication about Big Lebowski situation

"This company is dying. It is dying on a daily basis and the dream could be over and they could be done."

Dutch Pinball/Big Lebowski is a complete disaster - company is dying and buyers should get lawyers involved

"if you have your money in dutch i would get it out i would get it out of lebowski if you can get it out"

Dutch Pinball customers should get their money out now