Tournament
topic"I will say this in my experience in this hobby I've experienced a lot more rudeness and rude behavior and the people that tend to hate me the most are the people that don't listen to my content and their tournament players. So to me those people like they they act like they're entitled to this hobby and they don't like the conversation around price and new box because they never buy anything NIB. To me they're more like leeches who just you know they they literally and the way some of them treat this I mean this when I say this the way some of these tournament players treat other people's expensive pinball machines is disgusting."
Tournament players are entitled leeches who mistreat machines
"For some reason, all these tournament players like hijacked how games are made and tournament players don't care about moments. They care about scoring and multipliers."
Tournament players have hijacked pinball design away from magical moments
"the really good players, the tournament players, they don't, like those toys, they don't want those things in pinball. They just want flow. And that's been pinball is going at a tournament players way"
Tournament players are ruining pinball by pushing for flow over memorable moments and toys
"The moment we start taking advice from tournament players and location operators on what should go into a pinball machine for this much money, of course, Stern pinball and Jersey Jack want us to feel like that's what everybody's asking for."
Tournament players and operators giving bad advice on what should go in Homepinball machines
"And I think what happens with a lot of these other pinball designers, I'm just going to say it, you get too many tournament guys designing the rulesets for the game. And what they think is creative is a creative way to get to a high score. They're not thinking about the creativity of the experience and creating pinball moments."
Tournament players designing rulesets focus too much on high scores instead of creative experiences
"Because if I was wrong and it was all about gameplay and it was all about skill, then why do people love games like Ghostbusters? It shoots like crap."
"I'm here to tell all of you once again nobody cares what the tournament players think. These games are selling not because of flow, not because tournament players are stacking scores and rule sets"
Tournament players' opinions don't matter for pinball sales - home buyers drive the market
"These games need to be coded for moments for magical moments that bring the theme to life... if you code for tournament players All they care about is the pathway to a high score and it removes all the joy of the game"
Tournament players' influence on coding is ruining pinball games - games should be coded for magical moments, not scoring pathways
"You could give a tournament player blind piece of wood with a bunch of switches, and they would find a way to enjoy it."
Tournament players would enjoy playing on blind wood with switches
"The biggest problem I see in pinball today is that rule sets and tournament players are determining how these games are developed and they are ruining the most important thing in pinball... When all you're aiming for is shot geometry and rule sets and multipliers, you're making games that might appeal to a certain audience but a lot of these games are ending up soulless"
Tournament players and rule sets are ruining pinball by making games soulless
"my hypothesis is that so many of these games are being coded by hardcore tournament players. And if you think about it who gets excited about 10 times x who gets excited about stacking multipliers? It's tournament players, but emotionally everyone else who loves pinball is left completely unsatisfied"
Games coded by tournament players focus too much on scoring over emotion
"I really do think it's the tournament players and the people who want skill to activate everything that have driven too much of this decision making in the pinball world. I really do because then it's not skill based. It's more about entertainment based and I always err on the side of these are toys."
Tournament players and skill-focused design has negatively influenced pinball decision making
"I definitely think a lot of you tournament players are gonna hate it... they just look at it like How would this game be in a tournament and they're looking at it all wrong"
Tournament players will hate GNR but they're looking at it wrong
"incredible pinball players tournament players have sucked the life out of the pinball hobby and I mean that"
Tournament players have sucked the life out of the pinball hobby
"I've been hearing people moan too like the haters are coming out like the long ball times and everything's a multiball and like everyone just needs to shut up okay"
Tournament players complaining about long ball times need to shut up - home collectors want to enjoy the game
"The best tournament players in the world. They don't care about how fun a game is. They don't care about the magical moments in Pinball. To them, that doesn't mean anything. A tournament player's objective is to find a pathway to points."
Tournament players don't care about fun or magical moments, only scoring pathways
"I just can't do a podcast or listen to a podcast about tournament talk. It just it borrows me."
Tournament talk podcasts are boring
"Most of those dudes don't buy new machines. They just bitch about the new machines... We are the future. We are the people who buy these games, who keep these companies in business"
Tournament players don't contribute to hobby like NIB collectors do
"I think too many tournament players of high skill set have been involved in designing the modern pinball machines that all of us have been offered and I'll tell you what that's led to extremely tight and frustrating and clunky shots that don't make shooting the game fun"
Tournament players shouldn't influence game design because they don't care about theme or fun
"The 20 players who like there's like a handful then like they're like... they don't buy your fucking games."
Tournament players don't buy games so their preferences shouldn't drive design
"I don't care if those dudes are gonna find the shots because those dudes aren't buying like these new box machines and these tournament players for the most part aren't who you need to appeal to when you want to sell a thousand 2000 3000 games"
Tournament players shouldn't dictate game design - they don't buy the games
"I want to take every tournament player who doesn't like magnets, put them on a ship and sink that ship. People love magnets and pinball. I get it. I get that tournament players want to be able to predict, right, the trajectory of the ball. And it's an unfair variable they consider it, right? Because one player might get a drain and one might not. But it's pinball. It's supposed to be chaotic fun."
Tournament players who hate magnets should be put on a ship and sunk
"I saw the tournament going on and again, it reminds me these tournament guys the same like 20 do and I get they love it about pinball. It's just I never understand why you want to keep driving hours and hours and hours to win a few bucks here and there. When you could be just talking to people and enjoying enjoying the hobby"
Tournament players waste time competing for small prizes instead of enjoying the social aspects of pinball
"I don't really find it fun to talk about like whitewood or And Funhouse I'd much rather talk about dialed in and alien... I will never ever ever ever in a million years Ever talk about tournament talk. It is the worst and most boring topic to Record a podcast about"
Strongly prefers modern pinball over classic machines and will never cover tournament talk
"I don't think that an experienced players review of magic girl matters at all... There is nothing about an experienced players assessment in the game that will change anyone's opinion of this machine"
Tournament players' opinions on Magic Girl are irrelevant and predictably negative
"I honestly personally don't fucking care if those guys are upset about a game because I think those guys also represent like 5% of pinball owners, collectors and players."
Tournament players represent only 5% of pinball community and their complaints don't matter
"99.9% of pinball players and buyers and collectors don't give a shit that a game's code is coded for your little pinball tournaments. We don't care"
Tournament players are 1% minority and shouldn't dictate pinball machine design
"I ran up to him afterwards and I was just like, what are you doing? Like what's your problem? And he didn't really have much to say. He said he plays pinball. So I can only imagine it was a tournament player and that's his contribution into the pinball world and it's great. And I just said he's classless and I walked away."
Confrontation with person who booed during TWIPYs acceptance speech