The Hobbit

"I think people are starting to appreciate now some of the older Jersey Jack titles, because I think they're looking at stuff like Toy Story and saying, wow, maybe we were a little too harsh on games like The Hobbit, which had much better theme integration than Toy Story."

Jersey Jack's The Hobbit had better theme integration than Toy Story 4

"The Hobbit just always felt like a miss... It clearly was a game that just never was polished properly... I don't want a Hobbit. I don't ever want a Hobbit."

The Hobbit is a forgettable game that was poorly finished

"Joe Balcer's design in the Hobbit was uninspired. It just is a boring game to look at compared to Wizard of Oz. It is a boring game to shoot compared to Wizard of Oz. It is one of the most boring layouts I think most of us have seen in a really long time"

The Hobbit was a boring, uninspired design that represented Joe Balcer letting Jersey Jack down

"it is unfuckin' believable that you can go get a Hobbit limited edition or smalg edition for roughly around $6 to $6,500. That game knew it was $8,500."

Hobbit has become undervalued and is now an incredible deal

"I think it's hard to deny the fact that the Hobbit is looking like one of the best bangs for the buck in the pinball market nowadays with everything that's in that game"

The Hobbit is one of the best values in pinball with massive code update and low prices

"Hobbit will always go down as a miss in my book. I think Hobbit machines are going to continue to lose value."

Hobbit is a miss and will continue losing value

"I think that's one of the worst teams that ever existed is boring. It looks nice but it's not a game that excites me"

Hobbit is one of the worst themes ever, boring despite good looks

"I've never been a big fan of the Hobbit. I've always felt the game played really slow. I've always felt the theme itself disappointed me because the movies were so lackluster."

The Hobbit is beautiful but suffers from widebody layout and slow gameplay

"I'll be brutally honest about my collection. Like I'm not going to be one of those guys that says, I love every single one of my machines. You know, like if a machine is shit and I still own it, it's still a shit machine. All right. So I've got, I've got was Ali. I got the Hobbit, your favorite game."

The Hobbit is a terrible game despite being from Jersey Jack

"I wish Hobbit code would be complete so that we can once and for all agree that this game has no satisfying shots regardless of code. The game is not great. It's code 1.9. I heard the code's almost done. Great. Great. Because when it's finally done, when the code is finally finished, then we can stop making excuses for this pin."

The Hobbit has fundamental design flaws that code can't fix

"I just don't think it's quite the game that people had hoped... the hobbit was a little bit of a miss I think everyone can agree on it"

The Hobbit was a miss for Jersey Jack despite owner loyalty

"I think the Hobbit is a theme that is it's mediocre and I think everyone can agree that films were like kind of mediocre especially compared to Lord of the Rings. ... I definitely don't think the Hobbit is more successful than Wizard of Oz."

The Hobbit isn't selling well for Jersey Jack and will force them to reveal their next game sooner

"I had to warm up to the Hobbit a little bit... the comments about the game being a little floaty and, you know, they were not unfounded... I think it is a polarizing game a little bit. But I don't think it's a, I still think it's a success for them"

Hobbit is polarizing but successful game

"I think anyone who. Who is like looking to just throw that comment out into the hobbit community it's just stop it I mean I used to do it picking on J.J.P. fanboys and picking on the hobbit people who waited years is the oldest game in the book but it's it's run its course"

The Hobbit debate has run its course and both sides need to stop

"there's nothing to fucking shoot at in the Hobbit. It's an open playfield it plays like a modern EM the ball floats up there and has nothing really to hit."

The Hobbit is beautiful but has nothing to shoot at - plays like a modern EM

"Anyone who thinks that those lock rollovers or a good idea is smoking crack people because we want to talk about Changing trajectory of the ball those things are in the worst position and every time I play the hobbit I just watch the ball hit them roll around them and a lot of times go straight down the middle"

The Hobbit lock rollovers are poorly positioned and cause center drains

"How does one review the hobbit? I just don't know how to fairly assess this game. Every time I try to approach it, I get I get slammed or the JJP fanboys go nuts."

The Hobbit review challenges - can't fairly assess due to ongoing code updates

"There was a new owner who posted a thread about the ball getting stuck in his NIB Hobbit... It traps so hard that even shaking it doesn't loosen it... Everyone has, I believe, a feeling that with being two years late, the Hobbit should ship pretty damn near perfect"

The Hobbit has concerning out-of-box quality issues despite years of development time

"The Hobbit continues to be floaty and slow. And I just really don't understand why we're not allowed to actually say that... I stand over it, and I look down at this playfield, and I just don't see. Anywhere near five shots that feel that rewarding"

The Hobbit lacks rewarding shots and feels floaty and slow compared to other pins

"Having played both machines enough to have an initial impression... My vote would go for Ghostbusters and I can explain why... it's been impossible to say anything bad about the Hobbit without suffering the slings and errors of the JJP fan base"

Ghostbusters is significantly better than The Hobbit despite The Hobbit's superior aesthetics

"So the Hobbits have shipped and it is a great thing... Jersey Jack has stayed true to their word. They were telling people mid-marches when they would get the Hobbit and that is happening... what Jersey Jack has put together is an aesthetically incredible machine."

Jersey Jack Pinball has delivered gorgeous machines with The Hobbit shipping on schedule

"But I just don't think this pin has been worth the wait. And I think by the time it comes out, I feel bad for you guys who have had a wait so long for it."

Hobbit wasn't worth the wait despite improvements

"Jersey Jack it's his pin. You think he would set it up so that people's first impression of the pinball machine is a great one. I am still perplexed and confused as to why when he sets it up we keep hearing the same feedback"

Jersey Jack's setup choices for Hobbit demos are consistently poor

"the upper right flipper has no purpose. People it has no shot...I think that upper right flipper is the reason why the ramp broke"

Criticism of The Hobbit pinball machine quality and design flaws

"I clearly was expressing some strong opinions about the Hobbit and my feelings with that game against Game of Thrones. I heard a lot of you guys, a lot of you J.J.P fans, loud and clear that I should shut up, that it's too early to determine this game and review it against Game of Thrones LE"

Kaneda apologizes for being too harsh on The Hobbit vs Game of Thrones comparison

"I'm going to go on record right now for saying that I think the Hobbit is a complete miss. I think it is. I think there's absolutely nothing about this pinball machine that makes it worth three years of waiting."

The Hobbit is a complete miss and three-year debacle

"there's nothing that you really shoot. That feels ultra rewarding and I went around the bar tonight and I asked people like what's your favorite shot like what do you really love shooting at. And there wasn't really like an individual shot people loved or enjoyed or felt ultra satisfied when they hit"

The Hobbit lacks rewarding shots that feel satisfying to hit

"I felt the flippers on the hobbit just felt a little weak and by week I meant the ball doesn't explode off the flipper it's not easy to make those dual ramp shots up the middle. The ball sort of just barely climbs over the edge when it's when it gets around that loop for those shots"

The Hobbit's flippers feel weak and make the game play too slowly

"I'm going to make a statement here that I kind of feel like I need to make... I think the hobbit movie was crap and I think people don't like it that much and I think what the hobbits going to suffer from is that when the modes from the movie are coming up from the movie are called out in the machine you're going to have no real emotional feeling or impact during those scenes that will pull you in"

The Hobbit will struggle because the movies were crap and don't provide emotionally engaging modes

"it kind of felt like sleeping with a playmate with a limp dick and what I mean by that imagine trying to have sex with a playmate and your limp... you look down and everything is just really beautiful and you're ready to go and you're like pumped and you've been waiting for this moment you've been waiting for three years and you're like you pull off your boxer shorts and there's just this like wet noodle in your hand"

The Hobbit feels like having sex with a playmate while having erectile dysfunction - beautiful but disappointing performance

"the artwork of the hobbit is absolutely stunning. It's beautiful. I mean it's so beautiful that you almost don't even notice it it's that beautiful... It's so much more beautiful than game of thrones it's just it's not even comparable"

The Hobbit's artwork is absolutely stunning and much better than recent Stern releases

"would I own a hobbit would I put a hobbit next to my Lord the Rings right now and I could make room as of tonight the answer would be no I wouldn't go spend eight thousand dollars on this machine to own it it just didn't make me feel like I needed to"

Would not spend $8000 to own The Hobbit, doesn't justify the cost

"when I see this stuff is wow the game looks phenomenal as much as there's a lot of griping here and there the game just looks incredible... it blows away my Lord the Rings"

The Hobbit looks incredible and is worth celebrating despite delays

"But more than anything, I think what's happened is the hype is lost. And we're going to talk about this too with like Lebowski. But the hype, it's hard to keep hype going. It's hard to keep people excited and really looking forward to something when you string them along for so many years."

Hobbit has lost all its hype after years of delays

"And my prediction is this, it's going to come out. It's going to be beautiful. I think it's really going to stand out and people's collections and people are going to be wowed by it."

Prediction: The Hobbit will be beautiful and stand out in collections, wowing people when it releases.

"I think universally people are disappointed that the code is where it's at. I mean, I think that heard that from everybody. Like everyone is just like, I don't understand how they've had a year and a half to really get this code polish and it's still sort of in this quasi beta form"

Hobbit code disappointment after year and half of development time

"No longer will it be that floaty fucking modern EMS that everyone keeps justifying is a good pin. But look, you go on the forum now and no one even talks about it. There are people's homes code 1.01 who gives a fuck. The game's not even fun and people can't even justify it anymore."

The Hobbit is a floaty modern EMS that people falsely justify as good but actually isn't fun