Texas Pinball Festival

"But you know, if it looked good, it might have worked. But you know, Brite of Pimbot isn't really, I mean, the Brite of Pimbot 2.0 kits really cool. I think that's I thought was very impressive."

"The art package was terrible. I mean, that would well clearly, you know, they were fishing. But you know, if it looked good, it might have worked."

"So then we get to this period in which there's almost no updates for a long time. Then they rock up to Texas pinball festival. They have a plan, Ben. And it's to sell you a new version of bride of pinbott."

"I think those are the two shows that are most likely to be the reveal moment. I will say this. I don't think they're going to show Scott's game until they're sort of near the end of production on Alice Cooper"

"If I had a guess I would say the earliest we would see it is Texas pinball Festival."

"So you can see me at TPF and you can shake my hand because I gave you this information when nobody else would Jeff print it on This Week in Pinball."

"How hard is it to do it the way they did it with Yellowbric Road? Those games were on the line when Jack revealed Yellowbric Road at the Texas pinball Festival. Okay, there was any new that if you wanted one, you could have one in just a few weeks and people are getting them when they were promised them."

"what has happened that has made them go from the you know the five days of deeproot at TPF to this and how come this company afford to keep going like this all these months with no money coming in"

"it might be before the end of the year it might be at TPF next year it it it will be ready when it's shown."

"Yeah we really don't have a the reason I don't have the date is because a lot of our people are nights and weekends because we don't have that big budget so it might be before the end of the year it might be at TPF next year it it it will be ready when it's shown."

"I forgot to mention that yellow brick road wases are getting the customers right so so knowing that that game was on the line when Jack showed it at TPF you can kind of do the math because they're not tooled up yet for wonkas so are we going to see wonka in 60 days getting the customers I bet within 60 days wonka will be tooled up but that doesn't mean it's going to go in a box again they showed it to early they just did"

"So if shipping is not imminent, then when is deeproot going to show themselves to the world? Is it going to be expo? Is it going to be TPF next year?"

"So I would say the fact that they canceled TPF as early as they did means they're further behind than they thought they would be."

"Well, regarding the June 30th date, that was set over a year ago when they first announced their plans. That was also set well before they missed their GPF reveal. So I would say the fact that they canceled TPF as early as they did means they're further behind than they thought they would be."

"But if you're going to say something and you know, and you're going to put expectations and people's minds about like a date in which you're going to show your game and that date comes and goes like they blew past Texas pinball Festival, then when is it next?"

"TPF came and went, and the five days of deeproot never happened. One little trailer video leaks, and all of a sudden there's all this new conversation around deeproot, they have 60 pages, 60 pages of people talking about deeproot pinball, and they've never made a single pinball machine."

"Oh, and one thing. I said it over at Texas Pinball Festival and I'll say it again. If you got a problem with Kinnata, then use the Hata."

"We lambasted them for the reveal of the Olympic road at Texas pinball Festival."

"And deeproot had its chance to like take over TPF and have the five days of deeproot. But I'm saying this right now, Willy Wonka is like all we need in pinball."

"And I think they are going to look at Willy Wonka and realize like, fuck, like maybe we waited too long. And that's just the landscape of pinball."

"and you know the other thing is this I'm just so happy for Jack and if you spent time with Jack and you talk to Jack he's just a really really good guy and you know I give him shit I give him a lot of shit when they do things I think is stupid or they you know they they fumble a seminar at TPF I'm telling you like none of that none of that matters"

"you know they just they just had a great showing at TPF and all of a sudden now you've got a stern game and a jersey jack game pretty much revealed a week after you're trying to get people to order your product it's pretty brutal"

"I think it's absolutely ridiculous that all of these manufacturers did nothing at T.P.F. They did absolutely nothing."

"Steve Ritchie had a seminar in which he promised secrets were going to be revealed and he didn't deliver anything that was of significance in the pinball world and so then on like two days later we get the game black night, you know sort of rage. How can we just pause for a minute and just say how is that not idiotic?"

"We had all of these people down in Texas traveling from all over the world to get to what I believe is the best pinball show that happens annually in America and maybe globally for that fact, right?"

"Every single pinball company that was there pretty much dropped the ball when it came to revealing anything when it came to seminars when it came to you know getting people excited to buy their games. There was really wasn't much of a wow or a surprise moment or any true reveals that blue people away."

"He was there his team was there and they got up there and they they they fumbled over a yellow brick road launch with absolutely no polish and no rehearsal. They looked really bad and and they have they had a room full of at least a hundred people plus maybe two hundred people plus an entire convention that was just waiting to hear something surprising and exciting and nobody got it."

"Texas is a bigger show than the Midwest gaming classic and it would have been the perfect setting for it and to hold it for 48 hours. I don't get it."

"I think TPF was a really missed opportunity for a lot of these companies."

"Why didn't he at least Reveal the game at T.P.F. Why not? I don't understand this. I don't understand why Jack was there He was there his team was there and they got up there and they they they fumbled over a yellow brick road launch With absolutely no polish and no rehearsal"

"I think TPF was a really missed opportunity for a lot of these companies"

"Why not like Texas is a bigger show than the Midwest gaming classic and it would have been the perfect setting for it"

"How is that not ludicrous that Stern pinball has Steve Ritchie? They're you know their main designer the king of all pinball at Texas pinball Festival He's friends with Kim and Ed and and and here we have this captive audience and nothing Absolutely nothing"

"Number five, after TPF, like everyone else with JJP to extract every dime possible there will be a black pearl edition coming next year. How do we know this?"

"I thought Elvira was kind of irrelevant and not popular. And then when Cassandra was at TPF two years ago, the line was around the block. So I'm wrong. I'm wrong. There is a lot of excitement for Elvira."

"Point number five, after TPF, like everyone else with JJP to extract every dime possible there will be a black pearl edition coming next year."

"I just picked up on this vibe from them at TPF I just didn't get the sense that they were they had something up their sleeve you know when you see like from deeproot and robert mule there you know how you get this like sort of confidence from like Steve bowed in and the people over at deeproot"

"I haven't seen what they're working on but you know how you sort of get this air of like wait you see what we got right way do you see like we're about to like drop it like it's hot like it's going to be like a mic drop moment for this company I just didn't get that sense from the JJP crew"

"They had moved the tournament out of the main hall this year into a separate space and I think that that actually ended up working well to the benefit of the show. It kind of eliminated some bottlenecks up near the front entrance and it opened up a lot more space for vendors and there were a lot more new vendors at this show this year than I think we've ever seen before."

"So the show, like were you disappointed that there wasn't a deeproot presence after last year's they were advertising heavily that this would be the five days of deeproot? I was disappointed from the standpoint that it was a missed opportunity."

"Overall I thought the show was an even greater improvement on the last couple of years since they really had been polishing it up even more."

"I think this was the perfect year for them to really roll in with a big presentation and show something really impressive because going into it there really wasn't much new being revealed this year."

"So I think people realize that T.P.F. really is the go-to show and it's kind of a replacement to the Chicago Expo at this point."

"I know we're all looking forward to seeing that game and I hear we're going to have Jack give a teaser video of it at TPF."

"So games like Oktoberfest, games like Alice Cooper's Nightmare Castle, maybe there's gonna be a yellow brick road edition from Jersey Jack Pinball there. Maybe there'll be a few other surprises at the show that we don't know about yet."

"And I don't know about you, but I always get excited before a pinball show because what a pinball show the size of Texas guarantees us is that there will be some news coming out of the show. And not only that, what these big shows do so successfully is they get a lot more people playing the new machines for the first time ever."

"But ultimately, ultimately it's all about socializing and sharing our love of the hobby together."

"So that's why I love Texas Pinball Festival. It's big. There's a lot of personalities there. It's a great time to hang out and just chat with friends. But ultimately, ultimately it's all about socializing and sharing our love of the hobby together."

"And not only that, what these big shows do so successfully is they get a lot more people playing the new machines for the first time ever. And they will be able to give you more feedback on the game."

"Well Chuck, we're happy. Texas sounds like it's going to be a little bit of a joyous vacation for you. Even though some people paid you a year ago, not necessarily sure why you even need to go to a show when you could just be making pinball machines over that weekend and get them out the door."