Stern Pinball

"I also blame Stern that they literally just drop this thing into the world without explaining the concept of this pin that's on them and this is the problem with marketing why marketing and pinball fucking sucks."

Stern's marketing and reveals are poorly executed

"the pace at which stern moves is absolutely ridiculous they really have no competition"

Stern has no real competition due to their consistent release pace

"I think we all at this stage, no for sure, that yes, Stern doesn't test these games long enough before they go into market. They are not playing them, they're not putting these machines on location to go through its paces before asking you for your dollars"

Stern doesn't adequately test games before shipping

"What a blunder by Stern's marketing department. I have to say this. You know that this video is going to go up and you are going to make people critique the artwork for the first time ever. This hand drawn artwork, you are going to make them see it and critique it with low res images that are screen grabbed from this like 8 minute Star Wars video where the game appears in like 15 to 30 seconds."

Stern Pinball's marketing department made a major blunder by revealing Star Wars artwork through low-resolution screen grabs from a video instead of proper assets

"everyone knows deep down they just kept this feeling that like on an individual level do you really think that the higher ups and the investors at Stern pinball really give a damn if they lose you as a customer"

Stern Pinball doesn't care about individual enthusiast customers

"The pro games are always more fun than the LE's and the premiums anyway. They flow better. Everybody knows that. It's like a little kept secret."

Pro versions of Stern games play better than Premium/LE versions

"If I'm Stern and John Trudeau is found guilty of child pornography possession. Would I release a pinball machine designed by him. Absolutely not. We all know that he's working on a game with his on be right now and that game's pretty far along. I would absolutely start over."

If John Trudeau is found guilty of child pornography charges, Stern should not release his current game in development

"stern needs to learn to do this you just can't have expert pinball players beta testing your machines guys who are constantly nudging and moving and slapping machines you need to bring in a casual pinball player"

Stern needs casual players testing machines, not just experts

"one might say they are flooding the market with games because they know that this won't last very long that the pinball economy is going to collapse and they are going to make as much bank as they can in the next few years"

Stern is flooding the market with games because they know the pinball economy will collapse

"Just not even about this game ladies and gentlemen, this game at this price is a Trojan horse. To make the rest of us feel like these $13,000 or LEs are a good value. To make the rest of us feel like these $10,000 premiums are a good value."

James Bond 60th is a Trojan horse to make other expensive machines seem like good value

"bullshit there is no way stern is going to miss may 4th"

Stern is lying about delaying Star Wars pinball - they won't miss May 4th

"I know I give them crap for you know selling us cheap toppers and putting pieces of couch and games and look they do crappy stuff like that"

Stern does make quality compromises with cheap accessories and components

"They are about to pull the Steve Jobs and they are about to announce a game and Make that game available not just to buy but also to pick up and take home the same exact day They announced the game this has never been done before in Pinball and this is an amazing feat in Pinball"

Stern Pinball is about to do something unprecedented - announce and release a game the same day like Steve Jobs

"I think Stern is releasing these games quickly. And I think they're doing it to bury the competition. I really do."

Stern is deliberately releasing games quickly to bury the competition

"the time period between revealing Jurassic Park and putting pros and boxes and sending them to consumers is insanely fast. And within just a few weeks, I think a couple of weeks, games are already out to consumers."

Stern's speed from announcement to shipping

"Stern is trying to sell their mid level product at three highest price brackets. They are shoving their mid level product into a flagship cabinet."

Stern's pricing strategy is fundamentally flawed - selling mid-level at flagship prices

"this is bold but I apologize I don't see how anybody can buy a stern LE going forward without limited limited edition features a topper is a must a shaker is a must armor is a must that damn glass that they just created is a fricking must"

"I'd rather join the fang club than the stupid stern insider bowl shit I mean what is bowl shit like I'm gonna pay money to get a fucking Nate shivers podcast like behind a fire wall"

Stern Insider Connected program offers poor value

"Stone on the other hand had a rousing success with Ghostbusters. They followed it up with a sold out Batman 66. Gary is fucking killing it right now."

Stern Pinball is dominating the market while JJP struggles

"Not all the stops because Stern is cheap as fuck. But it will just be another Stern. Crapi-vinyl decals and play feel printing."

Stern is cheap and produces low-quality components

"And I think Stern has really fumbled this entire Batman launch. I just don't feel excited about it. It's hard to get excited because I just think coming out of the Ghostbusters issues and all the quality control issues, for Stern to come out and just like shove their hands in the people's wallets and grab all this money for a Stern is just, I don't know."

Stern has fumbled the entire Batman launch and is making marketing mistakes that make them look greedy

"stern pinball has so masterfully got all of you out there that are the stern apologists... they have so incredibly well got so many people to lower their expectations... because 750 people already bought the Elise, you want to see it being great. You are looking at it to justify your purchase"

Stern Pinball has masterfully lowered customer expectations and created FOMO culture that prevents objective game evaluation

"And once again, we got what I consider to be one of the sloppiest and one of the most confusing ways to show people a game... It's so confusing. We have no context about what the game is about yet... it's amateur hour and it's very sloppy"

Stern Pinball game reveals are sloppy and unprofessional, Dwight Sullivan's presentation style is confusing and amateur

"The problem is, is real simple. They are designing these games for tournament players who could care less about any of that stuff. They don't like the randomness... Tournament players hate it. They skip it. They don't want it because it might throw the ball down the middle."

Stern is designing games for tournament players at the expense of casual collectors

"Stern is the center of gravity for all of pinball. Stern is pinball. I think that's the fairest way to say it. Stern pinball is pinball. Everybody else is kind of like a boutique company trying to do what Stern does."