Pre-Orders
"Why would you buy any of these games until you play the damn machines? And I'm seeing people who are going to Pinball Expo. They're gonna be at the show and they've already placed an order on the freaking Labyrinth."
People shouldn't pre-order games without playing them first, especially when attending shows
"If you want this game, I would not pre-order this game with a non-refundable deposit... I don't think you're ever going to have a hard time getting one of these machines"
Don't pre-order Scooby-Doo - anyone who wants one will be able to get one, it's not Rick and Morty popular
"I also do think you are somewhat crazy for pre-ordering a game without seeing any manufacturing. [...] But the other reason why we shouldn't keep attacking this company right now, it's not set up to go down a Ponzi scheme road like the other companies that have done this before."
Pre-ordering pinball games without seeing manufacturing is foolish but understands deeproot is different from past scams
"people like Andrew Heighway and Skitbee Kevin Kulek and John Papadude those three entities absolutely ruined they ruined the pre-order model for a pinball it absolutely sucks"
Heighway Pinball, Kevin Kulek, and John Popadiuk ruined pre-order model for pinball forever
"if you have money in on an L.E. or a premium without seeing this gimmick, I'm telling you that's a foolish thing... This is the one game in which you have to wait to see this projector work in real life"
Buying unfinished games without seeing key features is foolish
"when you invest in a company that's brand new like Heighway Pinball like Dutch pinball like any pinball company you are investing in the company... unless the product is real and in box and on a shelf or at a distributor's warehouse you didn't buy shit you handed Barry Oursler money"
When buying unreleased pinball machines, you're investing in the company, not buying a product
"Paying for something before it's finished and what that means and what that has done to the Pinball community... this has been, I would say, an epidemic in Pinball that has been going on now for almost a decade now"
Paying for unfinished pinball games is fundamentally flawed and hurts the community
"I'm extremely against pre-orders. Right. Badly. I think that when I, and some people read that stuff online about my perspective over, they allowing distributors to accept pre-order deposits, not just $100 refundable, but some of the, you know, half down and half down stuff. I don't like that stuff. I think they need to bring the finished game to a show, put it out to the public, and be prepared to make it nearly immediately."
Strongly against pre-orders for pinball manufacturers
"You don't need to pre order you whatever five hundred dollars you might save the games will be available they always are"
Boutique pinball companies shouldn't do pre-orders, should build first then sell