Pirates of the Caribbean

"Pirates was cool, but man, it's not the end all be all. It was an overly complicated game. It doesn't even have the assets in it. I still can't understand the love affair with the game. If you love pirates, there's no Jack Sparrow. There's no theme song from pirates. I get it's inspired by it all, but there's barely any footage from the movies in the game itself."

Pirates of the Caribbean is overrated and overpriced with too many copies for sale

"I think it's only worth that because of the rarity. I love the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. The Jack Sparrow, all the humor from Johnny Depp, none of that is in the game... To me, it feels like such a half-baked version of Pirates of the Caribbean."

Pirates of the Caribbean is overrated and only valuable due to rarity

"Pirates is overrated Pirates is overrated Pirates is still the most overrated game I mean you know it's it's a great game for what it is it's a great again but it's not worth twenty thousand it's not worth thirty thousand it's an assetless game there literally is no Jack Sparrow in it"

Pirates of the Caribbean is overrated and not worth $20-30K

"David Thiel's music alone is worth the price of that machine. If you've never stood over a pirate's and just crank the volume and listen not just to the music. All the sound effects, what they created in that game. You will not hear anything since then that pulls you in in an atmospheric way. Quite like Pirates of the Caribbean."

Pirates of the Caribbean is atmospherically unmatched due to David Thiel's sound

"I think people are going to realize games like Pirates were overly complex, the code was way too convoluted, and the gameplay is not the best."

Pirates of the Caribbean is overly complex with convoluted code and poor gameplay

"This is one of the most overhyped games of all time. Yes, it's beautiful. Yes, it's deep, but it doesn't have assets from the movie... When this game was readily available, nobody really wanted it."

Pirates of the Caribbean is overhyped and overpriced - only valued because it's rare, not because it's great

"when we first saw Pirates of the Caribbean, you know Jersey Jack's Pirates of the Caribbean and that pirate ship was rocking back and forth, that blew everybody away, we had never seen anyone do anything like that"

Jersey Jack Pirates ship mechanism was more impressive than anything in Jaws

"I think everyone needs to remember when this game was readily available. Nobody wanted it. People played it. They played it at shows. They played it out on location. They didn't want to select between 22 characters. It's not really a great theme integrated pin."

Pirates of the Caribbean is only valuable because it's rare, not because it's great

"The only reason why people really want this pinball machine is because they can't have any more. When this thing was available, it's sat in box. Nobody wanted to buy this game when they could buy it"

Pirates of the Caribbean CE is valuable only because it's unavailable, not quality

"the pirates of the Caribbean topper that's on the LE is complete garbage. It's trash. It's so cheap. It's so embarrassing that Jersey Jack pinball release that topper for people. It's like they made no effort"

Pirates of the Caribbean LE topper from Jersey Jack is complete garbage and embarrassing

"In five years from now, let's say Jersey Jack Pinball goes out of business. Someone will just remake Pirates of the Caribbean one day. Why not?"

Prediction: If Jersey Jack goes out of business, someone will eventually remake Pirates of the Caribbean, just like other classic games are being remade.

"you guys would be foolish not to remake Pirate to the Caribbean watching this behavior right now because you're seeing none of this money. I mean, people are making $18,000 on top of the game that you made, and you're not seeing a single penny."

Jersey Jack should remake Pirates of the Caribbean to capitalize on high prices

"I have a hard time believing that they're going to go back To the most complicated, most headache-inducing widebody game they've ever made Which is pirates, I have a hard time believing they want to go back to that nightmare"

Pirates of the Caribbean won't get a rerun due to manufacturing complexity

"If I love those movies, I still walk away from playing that game, feeling like none of the humor and none of the stuff I love about the Pirates of the Caribbean movie comes through in the game"

Pirates of the Caribbean has poor theme integration despite being mechanically deep

"It blew everybody away... They took eight months after they revealed that game to ship the first one... They stream the game so many times that by the time the game came out, nobody wanted it."

Pirates of the Caribbean was amazing but ruined by delays and poor launch strategy

"Leonard was annoyed that people didn't buy this game when they had the chance. And he has an attitude that's like if you didn't want it when we were making it then screw you. We're not making more"

Pirates of the Caribbean isn't being reproduced because people didn't buy it when available, and Leonard has spite toward late buyers

"Why would you stop making a game that is critically acclaimed that has a higher rating than Pat Lawlor's games a game that more people want... Whenever I put up a poll what's the best Jersey Jack machine of all time? It's either Wizard of Oz or Pirates of the Caribbean Willy Wonka and dialed in doesn't even come close"

Pirates of the Caribbean was stopped at 1000 units despite being more popular than Pat Lawlor's games

"Pirates the Caribbean which I consider to be the only other game that is at the caliber if not better than wizard of us to me those are the only true Jersey Jack games that are at the level and at the standard by which Jack started this company"

Pirates of the Caribbean is the only other Jersey Jack game at the same caliber as Wizard of Oz

"I would do pirates because I mean, I've got a decent sized collection and I've had pirates for, I don't know, four months now... You still have all those rules. You can dig deep into the lineman did and now you've got more shots and you've got this deep rule set also."

Pirates of the Caribbean over Big Lebowski for home collection due to depth

"I think the reason why is people are starting to realize that there might have been some bad playfield clear coding going on that is affecting pretty much every single version of pirates of the Caribbean."

Jersey Jack Pirates of the Caribbean has serious playfield clear coat quality issues that are widespread and unfixable

"I really think the main reason why Pirates of the Caribbean failed to like connect with people is that opening menu screen. I really do. I think Pirates of the Caribbean lost more people just having to pick through 22 characters was probably the worst design decision ever in a pinball game."

Pirates of the Caribbean failed because of the character selection screen

"I will never not think that Pirates is a miss boys it's okay I'm glad you like your pirates but when you see Willy Wonka I'm spelling it out for you real slow you're gonna understand how to really make a game great pirates is good wonka is great"

Pirates of the Caribbean is just good, but Wonka is great

"This is the worst quality controlled modern Pinball experience I've ever seen. Some guy opened it up NIB and there was like 12 things wrong with the game out of the box."

Pirates of the Caribbean has the worst quality control issues of any modern pinball machine

"When Pirates of the Caribbean was available, it was not flying off of the shelf the way the owners think it was... Now that's a total sales failure."

Pirates of the Caribbean sales were poor and JJP stopped production due to lack of demand

"It is still the most comical thread on Pinside. You pirate zoners, I gave you your moment in the spotlight. You came on this show. Your thread is the most hilarious thread of all time to me. It is an owner's club thread every single day, a new problem every single day."

Pirates of the Caribbean has terrible quality control - constant breakdowns

"There is an automatic just attractiveness to that playfield because there's so much there that your brain is like oh my this is crazy. Like there's just so much to look at so much a shootout that there has to be some level hook from that point"

Pirates of the Caribbean is visually stunning and has great mechanics, but lacks depth in modes and assets

"It almost feels like every single pirate to the Caribbean and this is not me making this up. Every single pirate to the Caribbean that has gone out does require for the most part every owner to make some adjustments from the factory to get the game working right. And I think that's total horse shit."

Pirates of the Caribbean has quality control problems and requires troubleshooting from owners

"But to me, when I look at Pirates of the Caribbean, I just see no theme integration whatsoever... I've never seen a game that has required so many people to try and convince me why it's great. I mean, that's just my ultimate takeaway in this entire game. If it was so great, why does it require so much convincing to win people over?"

Pirates of the Caribbean lacks theme integration and requires too much convincing to win people over

"I understand that for those of you out there who love Pirates of the Caribbean, you are annoyed by my rant about my experience with the game"

Defending his negative Pirates review against angry fans

"And if you love theme and theme integration, I don't know how you can enjoy Pirates of the Caribbean the way you can a hobbit or a Batman 66 or a monsters or a Guardians of the Galaxy."

Pirates of the Caribbean has poor theme integration compared to other licensed games

"I've joked to people that the theme on this game is the least important thing about it. It really doesn't matter very much in my view. This could be like IRS tax return pinball, and it would still be fun."

Derek believes Pirates is the greatest pinball game of all time despite theme issues

"I also think the cannon shot in the game is very underwhelming and not very theatrical. And should have been much cooler. It should have been a shot that, first of all, you can't even see when you walk up to this game that there's a fucking cannon in the ship."

Pirates cannon shot is underwhelming and poorly designed

"I look at the top 100 on Pinside right now. And this game is ranked the fourth best game of all time. I mean, come on. Seriously, or it's not the fourth best pinball machine ever made."

Pirates of the Caribbean is not the 4th best pinball machine of all time despite Pinside ranking

"I still am on the fence about whether or not I need to believe people who tell me it's the greatest game of all time. If it was the greatest pinball machine of all time just ask yourself one question. Why would they stop making it then?"

Pirates isn't the greatest pinball machine ever because they're stopping production

"I will never buy a pirate to the Caribbean pinball machine. Never, ever, ever. And it's not because I don't think you love it. It's not because I don't think the pin is great. I don't like the theme at all."

Will never buy Pirates due to theme dislike

"The fact that the game has a lot of mechanical issues is a problem. And how can you not be scared opening up that thread that you're not going to have to like remove something and start soldering something."

Jersey Jack games have too many mechanical issues

"You can't just say, well, you don't even need the assets because it's such a great game. That's such bullshit. Pinball has always been and will always be designed to bring a theme to life under glass."

Pirates of the Caribbean lacks theme assets and can't be called the greatest game ever because of this

"There's a reason why Pirates of the Caribbean production is stopping in March and it's pretty obvious what that reason is. The reason is is that they don't want to order more parts for the game."

Pirates of the Caribbean production is stopping because Jersey Jack doesn't want to order more parts, not because it's a great game

"I think Pirates of the Caribbean is going to go down as a game that was a miss because of all of the theme integration problems they had."

Pirates of the Caribbean won't increase in value and will be seen as a miss

"I still think that as an accessible game from day one for someone and understanding all the different things going on in the game, it's not very easy."

Pirates of the Caribbean is not accessible for new players to understand on day one

"I'm not going to make it ever again in the future. And I want to ask you the listener... when I heard that. And I just kind of like that sounds really sort of like a sales tactic. We're not going to make any more of these buy it now while they last... I don't buy it. I think it's a little bit of a sleazy sales tactic."

Pirates of the Caribbean production ending in March is a sleazy sales tactic

"Dude, I love, I'm starting with pirates. I love pirates. I've loved it from the start... I still think the game plays Marvis Marb... And I love everything about it, man... it's magical. You know, it's one of those things hard to put on. You know, Eric created something really neat with that rocking pirate ship."

Jersey Jack Pirates is magical and plays marvelously despite complexity criticism

"There is only one reason why I will never own a Pirates of the Caribbean. I hate the theme. I don't like Pirates of the Caribbean"

Will never own Pirates of the Caribbean due to theme dislike

"I think Pirates of the Caribbean will struggle to sell in 2019"

Pirates of the Caribbean will struggle to sell in 2019

"The owners are complaining that this thing is making so much noise that when they play their game it's actually distracting them to the point where they want to unplug the topper itself."

Pirates of the Caribbean topper is excessively loud and distracting

"They are charging a premium price for pinball. The collector's edition is $12,500. They're shipping this game to customers with just really mind-boggling like problems... they don't drill the holes for the topper in your game. So you have to after buying a $12,500 game from Jersey Jack pinball, you have to drill your own holes on the top of the machine."

Jersey Jack Pinball is shipping premium games with unacceptable quality control issues

"You made a game about a pirate theme. And for 99 percent of people who walk up to it, they will never experience shooting a pinball out of a pirate cannon. And that's to me. That just says it all."

Pirates of the Caribbean has terrible design because most players will never experience the cannon shot

"I think Jack should put that topper on every LE or make it for sale. Because I think there's a ginormous revenue stream that he's leaving on the table by not allowing everybody to buy that incredible topper."

Jersey Jack's Pirates CE topper should be available on every LE - missing huge revenue opportunity

"People are having a lot of quality control issues with the game and this is why Stern Pinball probably doesn't try to put tons of new engineered mechs into their games because that seems to be the issue is these things don't feel like they are traveling well from J.J.P. Factory to people's homes without stuff happening."

Jersey Jack Pinball Pirates of the Caribbean has quality control issues despite high $9500 price

"pirates of the Caribbean nobody wants that theme... it is a bad theme. There's no if-ands or butts about it... Disney just booted Johnny Depp from the franchise and you're releasing a machine with his grill all over it"

Jersey Jack has poor theme selection and Pirates of the Caribbean is a bad theme choice