Pinball

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407 mentions Positive: 8Negative: 214Hot Takes: 185Conflicts: 13 55% hostile
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"I think remakes are silly unless it's a game even if it is a game like kingpin and I'll explain why because in this hobby so much of what fuels it is is finding the pin you know the hunt for something is what makes collecting a lot of fun"

Pinball remakes are silly and remove the magic of collecting

opinion negative Ep. 12 · Feb 12, 2016
"if there ever was a time in pinball to just wait wait this is that time because there is so much coming out... even if you handed me 8,000 dollars right now 10,000 dollars and said I think I think I can go buy a pin I really wouldn't go buy anything"

Now is the worst time to buy expensive pinball machines - wait for what's coming

hot take mixed medium Ep. 7 · Jan 31, 2016
"guys look putting money in a pinball machine is never a great investment it is a toy it is a toy meant to have fun... there's better places to put our money than pinball"

Pre-ordering pinball machines is a poor financial decision

opinion negative Ep. 6 · Jan 27, 2016
"this is Something that is blowing up and I'm just covering on it in a way that I guarantee you No other podcast is really gonna like go at this thing like this so"

Prediction: No other podcast will cover the Ripley controversy as thoroughly as his podcast will.

hot take mixed Ep. 3 · Jan 16, 2016
"We should not even stop at three award shows. We should have at least 17 in this hobby. We need to recognize everybody."

Pinball needs 17+ award shows and must recognize every single person in the industry

hot take positive medium
"There is only one reason that I'm still in this hobby, and there's only one reason why I sort of stick around, and that is because of some of the amazing people in the hobby. The actual machines themselves, the wood and the lights and the silver ball, I could give two shits about it most of the time."

Hobby value comes from people, not machines

opinion mixed
"what's happened is this and we all know what's happened these manufacturers have baked into the price the scalping and flipping prices of the game they saw what we were doing and I was one of them and they saw people buying low and selling high and they decided they want it more of that pie for themselves"

Manufacturers have baked scalping and flipping prices into MSRP

hot take negative scorching
"fuck you. No, you don't you don't have to wait five years a pinball machine should Immediately be fun"

You don't need to wait 5 years to judge if a pinball machine is great

hot take mixed scorching
"I think it's a terrible, terrible, terrible idea to remake 10 of the popular games from the past all over again... it's going to sink this damn collecting hobby"

Remaking popular games will ruin collecting by making nothing special or rare

hot take negative scorching
"It's an addiction and new inbox games are the drug you need to stay happy"

Pinball collectors are addicted to new games like drugs and go through withdrawal without them

hot take negative medium
"I'm really upset because I think these guys, remaking King Pin, is a bullshit move. I don't think the pinball circus dudes who are making this game deserve to destroy and ruin the legacy and the story behind King Pin Pinball."

Remaking rare pinball machines like Kingpin destroys their value and special nature

hot take negative scorching
"So I like to do the other way is if I can, once you get the game home, you don't want to sell it, you want people wanting it to be bought from you."

Dennis Nordman believes in designing games that players won't want to sell after owning them

opinion positive
"What greater motivation is it for the youth of tomorrow than to dangle in front of them a $9,000 unnecessary toy as a symbol of success in life. And the more Pinball machines you can put in your house, the greater you are as an individual."

Promoting $9,000 pinball machines to broke college kids as symbols of success

hot take negative scorching
"I continue to scratch my head at these companies always fumbling the very basics of how they handle the assets of their game. All right, you get one chance to show people and get them excited."

Pinball companies consistently fumble basic artwork reveals and marketing

hot take negative medium
"marketing is really important to any product. To getting people excited about a product, you have to really market it properly. And the more competition there is in pinball, the more you really do have to land the marketing in the right way, because if you get it wrong, as we're seeing today, the fallout can be pretty substantial"

Marketing is crucial in pinball - poor marketing can have severe consequences in a competitive market

opinion positive
"Nobody wanted it. Now that you can't buy it, everybody wants it. What a great marketing strategy, Jersey Jack Pinball."

Pinball community becomes obsessed with unavailable games they previously ignored

opinion negative
"I fully believe that pinball machines, a large amount of the sales are impulse buys."

Believes pinball machines are largely impulse purchases

opinion positive
"i guarantee you pull any manufacturer right now whether they're doing it in house or not and he drop a ball from three inches which is probably less than what the strongest strike could be every one of them will dimple"

Prediction: Every pinball manufacturer's playfields will dimple when a ball is dropped from just three inches.

hot take mixed
"You fucking buy the game Before you even see it. There is a level in life Where you are the dumbest motherfucker on the planet. Below that line Is another line And on that line it says You people buy fucking pinball machines Without seeing them"

Pinball collectors buying machines sight unseen are the dumbest people on earth

opinion negative
"It is too expensive to maintain this league."

Maintaining pinball league operations is too costly

opinion negative
"I think collecting all these machines and chasing after them is getting to be pretty stupid. I think it's a losing game... I don't think 10 games should be $100,000. It's a toy. It's a damn toy. I'd much rather have a car or motorcycle or take vacations"

Collecting pinball machines is becoming stupid and not worth the entertainment value

hot take negative medium
"i'm frustrated that our game at Houston in the shape it was was likely uh had more value in it than a fifteen thousand dollar you know Elvira signature edition"

Frustrated with pinball consumers expecting deeproot to price games cheaply despite offering more value

conflict negative
"the Ossier Kate forum has decided to lock the thread nothing left to discuss here... they don't want any negativity to infiltrate the pinball hobby that this is bad for pinball and so we're going to silence something that doesn't paint one of pinball's most celebrate designers in a bad light and to me that is a crime in itself"

Forums locking threads about John Trudeau's arrest are silencing discussion to protect pinball's image

hot take negative scorching
"Here's the real kicker, everyone. They're free. We give this to you on a weekly basis for free. We don't charge you. We simply sacrifice some of our time to give it to you because we enjoy it."

All pinball content creators give away their work for free and put in massive unseen effort

hot take positive medium
"you're starting a pinball company where everybody out there is a potential customer. And the last thing you want to do is limit your customer base"

Business owners should not alienate potential customers with divisive language

opinion negative
"music means more than any Pinball machine ever... Music is way more magical than Pinball"

Music is way more valuable and magical than pinball machines

hot take negative medium
"Can pinball podcasters stop you from being a kid. What are you doing? Pinball podcasters about fucking pinball podcasting when did the fucking pinball podcasting world become that where every fucking episode is a pinball podcaster interviewing another pinball podcaster about how they fucking pinball podcast"

Pinball podcasters need to stop interviewing each other about podcasting

hot take mixed medium

A parody by Kineticist. Not affiliated with Kaneda's Pinball Podcast. This is satire.