Pinball Expo

"And immediately after the seminar right they pulled the curtain off the game they had Jack Danger doing an hour and a half video of flipping the game for the first time. And I thought that was really awesome that we went right from reveal to gameplay in the right way right with HD footage with Jack's camera on Twitch."

"And here's why even though some dingbats scooped them a little bit on pinside they did it right and by that I mean they had their seminar at 830 at Expo. And immediately after the seminar right they pulled the curtain off the game they had Jack Danger doing an hour and a half video of flipping the game for the first time."

"I mean what a novel concept to have high definition video of your game explaining the way the game works when you reveal it. So I thought that was terrific."

"I think American Pinball is probably the main attraction at this year's show. They are coming with Oktoberfest. They are gonna show a brand new game that no one has seen anything on other than a few images of artwork."

"This is gonna be a very big show for American Pinball. We know that Houdini was rushed. They made Houdini as sort of a way to salvage their partnership with J-Pop."

"I still think the title is gonna be a difficult one to win people over, so the game's gonna have to be incredible. But a very big show for them."

"I also think, as you've heard on the show before, going to every show is kind of a waste of money at times if you don't have a reason to be there."

"There's no way unless they quickly design something and rush a game into the marketplace. And we know what happens when you rush pinball development, you get a baron game, you get uninspired games and it's not going to work."

"I know there were like rumors there was going to be a new American Pinball game at Pinball Expo. And again, think about it. If they need to hire all of these people and a normal pinball development cycle that leads to a great game is around 18 months, there's no way."

"I think launching a game there is idiotic. I think it makes no sense. You can as I said like a good video on the internet Will attract more people than anything out of show like that"

"I just have more fun at TPF. Way more fun. So I'm think I'm gonna skip it this year."

"Speaking of shows there's all this drama around pinball expo, which I don't care or like I don't understand it. It's the same moaning and groaning every year about like people who bring games to shows should have incentives and be rewarded."

"So I don't think I'm gonna go this year. I say that every year. I always want to go to Chicago because it's close. I just have more fun at TPF"

"that is all leftover prominence from the show of yesterday years that it used to be which is where people would reveal their games so that operators and distributors could see what's coming out next and place their orders"

"There's so many better shows in Pittsburgh, T.P.F., Allentown, Vancouver, so many better places, so many so much more positive vibes and energy going on and yet Chicago Expo still remains in people's minds as like the place to reveal games"

"You should not reveal your game at Expo, bring it to Expo if this game is not ready to go into immediate production."

"I want to say this Pinball Expo is no longer the show anymore. It is probably I think one of the worst pinball shows that happens in the country."

"That show is now I think probably the worst place to reveal your game. Also the show is irrelevant."

"Pinball Expo is no longer the show anymore. It is probably I think one of the worst pinball shows that happens in the country. There's so many better shows in Pittsburgh, T.P.F., Allentown, Vancouver, so many better places... That show is now I think probably the worst place to reveal your game."

Pinball Expo is one of the worst pinball shows in the country and the worst place to reveal games

"But I'd also say that at some point, Robert needs to just rip the bandaid off with John out of show. And he's going to need John there. If they're making John's games and they're correcting them and they're going to bring them to market, ultimately John will be a public facing figure of deeproot pinball."

"Now, I probably wouldn't have John be anywhere near a deeproot seminar until one thing happens until they actually get a working J-Pop title that they're ready to show the world."

"So is it a good PR move for deeproot to show John the answer is no. I mean, it's not. I would never say that he brings anything but negative vibes into the room."

"we saw that John Popadiuk will be, he will be at pinball expo this year. And let's talk about that for a minute because I think a lot of people are saying to themselves, what do you do in deeproot? Why are you bringing John Popadiuk to expo?"

"I was very adamant that I hated the fact that they were revealing it at Expo. I mean, to the point that I was sending emails to at that time, Joe Harbor, the CEO explaining to him that, you know, don't think that because it's pinball Expo that you have to adhere to this calendar every single year as far as reveals."

"When Jack announced it at Expo, Joe, why are we going out so early? Like if you're not going to ship for such a long time, did you see an impact on dialed in orders or because we speculate on that, but you're distributor."

"I just had such a positive experience the year prior with the attack from Mars revealed where Chicago Gaming did an incredible job keeping everything under their hat, even to us as distributors, you know, we all kind of knew it was attack from Mars, but they never told us anything official. And then when they announced the game, we're ready to ship in three weeks."

"Our serious problem started in pinball Expo 2016 and I believe that sabotage played a big part in the company's problems. There were some people in the pinball industry who were very threatened by alien and how it could harm their own game sales."

"I spent many hours in Chicago on the phone to the UK police, the serious fraud office and the individual banks in question. The planning of this fraud campaign was meticulous and its timing was planned and targeted."

"This is a chain of events that began at pinball Expo. Number one, company tools and electronics were stolen from Heighway Pinball's stand in the main exhibition hall at the Weston Hotel."

"Number two, on announcing the state of full throttle production at Expo, a fraud campaign was launched against Heighway Pinball customers. This was a planned and targeted campaign."

"And so Scott at these shows and I've sort of harped on this a lot where You've worked on this product for years and you're about to show the world your product and it's like these guys walk in with sort of chicken scratch powerpoint presentations And they don't even create like an atmosphere in the room. It's very much just like here's our slideshow of making the game and then here it is and and it's just sort of like You know, it's like there's no real effort to create any buzz."

"I see some of that uh my favorite reveal that I ever saw was Pirates of the Caribbean. I like that one because it was a solid It was a solid presentation Aaron got up and explained what it looked like and they had the box there."

"Yeah, I go to a Chicago pinball expo every year I'm glad that it's back on it kind of normal for 2018"

"I see some of that uh my favorite reveal that I ever saw was Pirates of the Caribbean I like that one because it was a solid It was a solid presentation Aaron got up and explained what it looked like and they had the box there"

"Yeah, I go to a Chicago pinball expo every year. I'm glad that it's back on it kind of normal for 2018."

"I wish I made it to TPS. I was at Chicago pinball Expo, but I'll probably head to TPS next year."

"over the loud speaker they kept saying pinball exposed I just call pinball I suppose that's how tired I am Texas pinball festival will be closing in 10 minutes and by close and they're serious I mean they're serious like it is walking around being like I got to go I got to go to bed shut your shit off"

"it is these shows are impossible to get any sense of immersion into the game you can hear anything but look the game is absolutely stunning stunning and I could hear the music"

"And I always felt like when I went to Chicago pinball expo that I that I was torn that I'd travel there. But yet half the things I wanted to go do weren't even at the show."

"So Rob Burke is going to break away and have a show in September called pinball polusa. But apparently Mike is also planning to still have expo in October. So that's stupid."

"we got the news last week that pinball expo is no more in the sense of the way it used to be. Now, I think it's about time that everyone just admits that pinball expo has fallen off."

"So I think the pressure is on to see which show delivers the most. Because they're going to be competing now to get manufacturers to choose their show as the place to to see new stuff."

"And with Chicago being the home of pinball, it's kind of sad that the main pinball show has become so poorly run. And I think I've heard all the drama about Mike and this and that and what not."

"There is no way there is room for two competitive pinball shows a month apart. I actually prefer going to Chicago in September solely because it's warmer."

"Pinball expo has continued to slide further and further down in terms of being a great pinball show. Now it's unfortunate because Chicago is the home of pinball."

"I think Stern should have led more of the charge to make Chicago pinball expo something magnificent. I think instead Stern tried to like compete with it a little bit."

"And they make total sense because they are like six months or so apart and they are the perfect time for a company to reveal its games because most of the news and most reveals happen at those two shows."

"And look there are two pinball shows. Let's be honest there are two pinball shows where reveals a curve for the most part. Right? Chicago expo and pinball expo in Chicago and Texas pinball festival in in March."

"Stern failed to show up to pinball expo in Chicago with Guardians of the Galaxy and now they are failing to go to Texas pinball festival where thousands of people will go who are pinball fans to see the latest and the greatest and they are not going to be present."

"And I think it's absolutely unforgivable that Stern continues to turn its back on the main shows in this hobby."