Multimorphic
company"I still think and I've said this before I think the greatest mechanisms are in Multimorphic games and I still to this day wish they would just make it easier to put more of those mechs all throughout the game"
Multimorphic has the greatest mechanical mechanisms in modern pinball
"That's the problem with Multimorphic. The whole platform is a solution in search of a problem because the whole hobby has telegraph to him that we don't have a problem having machines that don't have swappable playfields."
Multimorphic is a solution in search of a problem
"Jerry just keeps forgetting option number seven... Just make a normal pinball machine. That's it... You haven't revolutionized anything."
Multimorphic should just make normal pinball machines
"Do you believe that there are more than 700 people in the world with a Multimorphic? I go in the club thread. Nobody's there. So did everybody who bought this is not on Pinside? It's not on Facebook? I mean, I don't know. I don't buy it"
Multimorphic's claimed 700+ Portal sales numbers seem unbelievable
"They're never going to get back even close to what they put into the platform. And now the new games like portal on its own as just a kit is like five to $6,000. That's insane."
Multimorphic's platform pricing strategy is problematic and customers take huge losses
"Jerry needs to sell this thing for $6,000 for the total package and then make money on the module things. And then make money with licensed downloadable content. That's how you make money with video game consoles."
Multimorphic's P3 platform fails because it's overpriced instead of being a loss leader
"That is where the debate is going to happen around this game. Is it worth it? And does a single modular add on at that much money, does that negate the entire purpose of the Multimorphic platform that if you buy one of these, it's cost effective and will be a cheaper option than buying a separate game. But now the extended version is pretty much the cost of a separate game."
Portal's $5,500 extended edition pricing negates Multimorphic platform cost advantages
"They haven't had a hit game ever, Carrie. They haven't had a hit game ever. Stern pinball has sold more John Wick pros than this company has ever sold."
Multimorphic hasn't had a hit game ever
"I really wish Jerry would just take a risk and make a normal pinball machine in the traditional way and have a theme people wanted. If he made The Princess Bride in a normal cabinet with someone like Francheon artwork, he would have sold way more than putting it on a platform like this."
Jerry should make traditional pinball machines instead of modular platform
"If I had to guess, I would say this company has not sold 500 or more of cabinets of Multimorphic over like 12 years of the game being available."
Multimorphic has sold fewer than 500 P3 cabinets in 12 years
"It's also like a solution in search of a problem. Even though people are out of space, nobody wants swappable playfields, it's just not what we want."
Multimorphic's modular approach is a solution in search of a problem
"They're not crooks. They're not liars. They're not misleading anybody. And in the world of pinball, I think we have to give credit to the men and women who create pinball in an honest way."
Multimorphic is honest and reliable compared to other manufacturers who mislead customers
"when you look at the pinball buying demographic and you do market research, you're not going to land on a place that most people want these swappable playfields and these like modular systems... because what you sacrifice for what you gain is not worth it to the majority of pinball buying people."
Multimorphic's modular platform strategy is flawed for the pinball market
"Jerry, I think I speak for all of us. Just make a normal pinball machine. And when you do do that and it sells like four times more units than your Multimorphic platform, we know that's the only reason why you won't do it because it'll prove to you that the last like 15 years where you were trying to reinvent pinball wasn't worth it."
Multimorphic platform is a 15-year failed experiment
"it's like a lot of people have issues with this platform and a lot of people are just better human beings than Kaneda and they won't say anything... we've never seen anyone get anywhere close to the return on their investment when they go to sell their Multimorphic platform. It's just a losing proposition"
Critical of Multimorphic platform despite acknowledging Princess Bride quality
"I think this entire package needs to be a loss leader for Jerry. He needs to get units out in the world and he's not going to get many units out in the world at these prices. If this thing were $6,000 or $7,000, I could see people taking the plunge and getting one into their home."
Multimorphic Princess Bride should be $6,000-$7,000 as a loss leader to get units in the market
"I think it's really weird how and the Princess Bride that showed this man that people just want licensed themes, right? All those years of making stuff like cosmic kart racing and Lexi lightspeed and heist. That's not what people want. I bet Jerry sold more the Princess Bride machines yesterday than he did over the first five or six years of this company."
Multimorphic's success with Princess Bride proves people want licensed themes over generic ones
"And it still opens the door to the conversation Jerry doesn't want to have, which is if this company just made a dedicated cabinet, they would be much more successful."
Multimorphic should make dedicated cabinets instead of modular ones
"But I do know that there's not a lot of love for this platform. And if you buy one, you better buy one wanting to own it forever. Because as we've seen on the used market, it's almost impossible to get rid of these things without not just losing your shirt, you're going to lose your pants and your underwear when you try to sell one of these P3 Multimorphic platforms."
Multimorphic P3 platform has terrible resale value and limited appeal
"The problem is, is you don't just buy Princess Bride. You're buying the platform and you have to want to buy other games on the platform or it doesn't make economic sense... It's like taking lobster and stuffing it inside of eggplant. And that's the only way you allow people to eat lobster is they also have to have a bite of eggplant with every bite"
Multimorphic's platform approach prevents success despite good games
"I really, really, really believe that this is a good theme for Pinball... 90% of the comments were disappointed that this game was going to end up on the Multimorphic platform."
Princess Bride is perfect pinball theme but wrong platform will kill it
"It's not about just one title. If you commit to this platform you kind of have to commit to all of it. It's like you're not just marrying one person, you're marrying into the family."
Multimorphic P3 platform is fundamentally flawed - nobody wants to commit to the entire family of games
"And so you look, my prediction for Multimorphic in 2024. Is there once again going to go down this road in which I think they create some of the most interesting mechanics in pinball. I think their themes though are really hard to compete against the b"
Prediction: Multimorphic will once again go down the same road in 2024, creating interesting mechanics but struggling with themes that can't compete.
"I mean, I don't really say a lot of nice stuff about Multimorphic, but when they have those two games linked up with each other at the shows, it's a heck of a lot of fun."
Multimorphic P3 head-to-head gameplay is fun despite general negative opinion of company
"You know what, look, Jerry, keep making your Multimorphic P3s, but then have your engineers just make a normal Pinball machine. Just try it for once, Jerry, trust me."
Multimorphic should abandon the P3 platform and make normal pinball machines
"the one company to me that really seems to be pushing the mechanical creativity... is multimorphic"
Multimorphic has the best mechanical creativity despite LCD playfields
"They have a platform of interchangeable modular system pinball. That is a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist. They have solved the problem that nobody really needed solved."
Multimorphic solved a problem that doesn't exist with modular pinball
"If you broke your sales record, what was the sales record? Let me tell you people, this is such spin and such weirdness."
Multimorphic's sales record announcement is meaningless spin without actual numbers
"Jerry where have you been on this all these years brother you should be making an official p3 Multimorphic display case and cabinet and sell it to your customers"
Multimorphic should make official display cases for P3 modules
"Multimorphic only exists because Jerry wants that platform. It's Jerry's dream. It's nobody else's. If he did any market research about modular pinball systems where the playfield is a screen, he would get research back that would tell him this is not the right direction to go in."
Multimorphic exists only because of Jerry's personal dream, not market demand
"I think final resistance is a really cool game for the Multimorphic platform... But again, this is just not enough for me to be writing a check for $11,700 for the platform"
Multimorphic Final Resistance is good for platform owners but production delays are concerning
"I would guess no more than 300 Multimorphics have been built in a decade and so like It's just like for Scott Danesi to make a game on that platform You know, it's not really gonna work"
Multimorphic platform is commercially failing
"there is just enough people out there that just don't get the same pinball feel when they play the Multimorphic platform it doesn't feel exactly the same as a normal pinball machine"
Multimorphic platform has fundamental issues preventing mainstream adoption
"I don't believe that there is this much demand for Multimorphic. I just don't believe it... I challenge you, Jerry, tell us how many Multimorphics you've built and shipped to date. I will bet you in the eight years that Multimorphic has been in existence in which maybe five years they've been making games, I bet you he has not built and shipped the same amount of games that Stern builds in one single week."
Multimorphic manufacturing and demand claims are questionable
"Guess what the biggest red flag is whenever companies do this? You don't see workers. You don't see people... I'm not impressed that you have a warehouse full of parts. Jerry, make the games. Jerry, hire people"
Multimorphic shows red flags by not showing workers in factory videos
"they're the greatest pinball company in their own heads. Like, they really are"
Multimorphic thinks they're the greatest in their own heads while making almost nothing
"If you're Gerry Stellenberg and you know you've got weird Al, you know you're going to sell like a few hundred of them... why did you reveal a game when you knew you were like maybe six or more months away from being able to really turn on the assembly line?"
Multimorphic revealing Weird Al game before having manufacturing capacity was unprofessional
"if you buy a weird out LE for 13 grand and then a heist and then a cosmic heart racing, you're like pretty much $20,000 in... And then if you go to sell it, you're never gonna find anyone to come anywhere close to 20 grand."
Multimorphic P3 platform has major financial drawback due to poor resale value
"I think he was terrified that Toy Story was going to be revealed. And Jersey Jack would say they're going to have the game on the line in April... so he got in front of that by announcing Weird Al"
Jerry from Multimorphic revealed Weird Al too early as a marketing strategy to beat Jersey Jack's Toy Story announcement
"Jerry is always touted this whole thing as being the future of pinball, like looking forward, being innovative, approaching this hobby differently. But if you really think about it, the stuff that actually made his company successful were the tried and true tactics of the pinball industry."
Multimorphic succeeded by abandoning their innovative vision and using traditional pinball marketing tactics
"it's ironic the closer he gets to just making a normal pinball machine the more successful he'll be and I mean it when I say it if this game didn't have the screen and if it wasn't inside a P3 cabinet if it was just a Matt Andrews art package regular pinball machine on wood I bet you he would sell even more."
Multimorphic would be more successful with traditional wooden pinball machines instead of P3 platform
"Six months, he can blow by the ETA on when the game should be in my home. How could they be that far off on an ETA of when I should expect my game? And I get it that this is a buffer window, but this buffer window sounds inane. It sounds ridiculous."
The 6-month buffer window for refunds after missing delivery dates is a red flag and sounds ridiculous
"Why is it $8,300 to put this thing in your house with no game? Last time I checked, right? It's a flat screen TV inside a wooden box. And what else is in it that justifies the $8,300 cost?"
The P3 platform base price of $8,300 with no game is too expensive and should be $4,000-$5,000
"The whole modular swapping out of the games as kits, that's not what the market wants. If it was what the market wanted, other companies who have tried this would have been more successful"
P3 Multimorphic platform won't stay competitive because market wants standalone games
"this is the make or break moment for this platform if this dream theme comes out and it is a flop or people don't gravitate towards it or people don't order it there's nowhere left for him to go"
P3 Multimorphic's 'dream theme' claim is make-or-break moment for the platform
"every single new game that Jerry launches for the P3 Multimorphic. At this point needs to be a platform mover. He needs to ask himself, will this game entice someone to buy a P3 Multimorphic?"
P3 Multimorphic mini-games don't sell new platforms, Jerry needs a licensed platform mover
"Jerry as much fun as I make of p3 multi morphing and some of the decisions you've made you're still a hardworking person that actually made innovations that moved pinball forward and the p rock system is one of them so don't support deeproot support p3 multi morphing today"
Jerry at Multimorphic deserves support over deeproot despite criticism
"P3 Multimorphic has not been a bust It has not There a company that has got people products When they ordered them If you want a P3 Multimorphic You're not going to get ripped off You're not going to have to wait a year This company is legitimate"
P3 Multimorphic is legitimate but not commercially successful
"99% of the pinball games I play at a show are not for kids. Kids won't find them fun. They're overly complex. They're confusing. When I play heads up, every kid can jump on that and have fun."
P3 games are most approachable for kids and younger audiences
"I think Jerry is an incredibly intelligent guy. I think the platform is beyond what anyone else has done. It's beyond our comprehension. Beyond advancing pinball, but the gameplay and the themes just haven't been there"
Multimorphic games have advanced platform but gameplay and themes haven't been compelling