"Jaws 50th is the last great game Stern made"
"I think Jaws 50th is ending up the game where if you're going to go in on something, I think it is the number one game at Stern Pinball this year that gave everybody the best value. And shaping up to be one of the best Stern machines of all time."
Jaws 50th is the best value Stern game this year
"I think jaws 50th is a great buy. I've said it, I think it's the only Stern I would even think about buying this year. I think there's nothing else of excitement that has come out from them."
Jaws 50th is the only Stern worth buying this year
"I think Jaws 50th is going to be the game that not now, it doesn't feel like it now because they're still making it. But I think a year from now, I think if you buy it, it's going to go up in value because I think they're going to make less than 1000."
Jaws 50th anniversary will appreciate in value due to low production numbers
"You know who got burned really, really bad. Anyone who owns a Jaws premium. You guys got the shaft. If you bought a Jaws premium for 9600 because you wanted all the mechs and you didn't care about the LE for 13, man, nobody's going to want your version of Jaws."
Jaws Premium owners got burned by the 50th anniversary release
"I actually think jaws is going to go down as one of the best turns of all time I've just look I've covered this hobby long enough to tell when a game has like long-term love and jaws has a lot of long-term love and it's simply because they did the assets right"
Jaws will go down as one of the best Stern games of all time due to proper asset usage
"I think people are sort of like a little lukewarm on it... I still think Stern went a little cheap on the overall presentation of this game. I think when they're highlighting stuff like stickers, they've run out of stuff to talk about."
Jaws 50th Anniversary edition is lukewarm, Stern went cheap on presentation
"this game tanks the value of the older premium. If everyone who has an older premium. Just lost like a couple thousand dollars"
Jaws 50th Anniversary will hurt the value of original premium versions
"I mean, it looks horrible. I get it. You know, the stern army defenders are going to say, well, you have to see it in real life. I don't need to see it in real life. They never should have framed this thing with the red armor."
Jaws 50th Anniversary red armor looks horrible and doesn't work with the white skyline artwork
"So if you own an LE and you were worried that this 50th anniversary edition would look better than your LE, I think when it comes to the overall aesthetics and standing back and looking at the game, you have nothing to be worried about. Your LE looks so much better and you don't have to feel bad."
Jaws LE looks much better than the 50th Anniversary edition aesthetically
"I hate the red armor on it. I hate it. I but it's an easy fix. It's just I don't want to have to fix a $10,000 game"
The red armor on Jaws 50th Anniversary looks terrible and ruins the aesthetics
"everybody knows Jaws is a pretty damn good game. Like it really is a damn good game."
Jaws is a really good game that deserves this anniversary treatment
"The code is probably one of Stern's best ever to be honest to be fair"
Jaws has Stern's best code and is highly regarded
"The game that everybody seems to universally love the most is Jaws. And Jaws is a game that like when it came out, it didn't mechanically light the world on fire. But boy oh boy does Jaws really do the theme justice."
Jaws is Keith Elwin's most beloved game due to movie assets and personality
"Jaws is a great game... But Jaws is severely underwhelming in the area of art. It's underwhelming in the area of toys and mechanisms. Yes, it is still embarrassing to this day that they made a Jaws pinball machine where Jaws doesn't eat the ball."
Jaws is great for theme integration but underwhelming in art and toys
"When you look at Jaws and you just think about the game itself, the mechanical stuff is a snooze fest. Like there's nothing in Jaws mechanically that is actually exciting to see exciting to shoot."
Jaws mechanical elements were uninspired and hurt the game's appeal
"To a game about a shark that eats things. And the damn shark doesn't eat anything. It absolutely is, I still believe to this day one of the biggest misses when it comes to theme integration. I also think the upper playfield doesn't look like a boat at all... It is the cheapest, cheapest, like, flat plastic looking upper playfield that's meant to look like a ship... And you tell me that Stern is charging us $13,000. And that's what a ship is supposed to look like. It's terrible. It's absolutely terrible."
Jaws has terrible theme integration - shark doesn't eat anything, upper playfield looks cheap
"I believe Jaws L. Lee is going to hold strong around $13,000. It is. If you have a Jaws L. Lee, I wouldn't sell it."
Jaws LE will hold value at $13,000 unlike other recent games
"Jaws is good. Jaws is the game that's closest to like the magic of Godzilla. I don't think it has it... Jaws doesn't reach the level that Godzilla reaches."
Jaws is good but doesn't reach Godzilla's level due to inferior theme and mechanisms
"I mean, they made a game about a shark that freaking eats people and then the shark doesn't even eat the ball. I'm sorry, I still will never get over the fact that Stern Pinball could not figure out how to make a dramatic, amazing moment with the damn shark"
Stern Pinball made a major mistake not having the shark eat the ball in Jaws
"That topper would have been $399 before COVID. You can go get a huge flat screen TV for 400 bucks. I'm just tired of seeing this. I'm tired of seeing them just mail it in."
$1000 Jaws topper is lazy and overpriced
"when I look down at Jaws, the real missed opportunity to create that world under glass. Like it's not there, people. The orca is terrible. It doesn't look like a boat. It looks like a flat piece of plastic. That shark fin mech is terrible. It's not exciting to shoot."
Jaws pinball has terrible mechs and missed opportunity for world under glass
"it's a tough theme for pinball to begin with it's not high energy like John Wick it's a slow movie about a shark it's also a game when you walk up to it there's nothing really wow in it mechanically and they definitely didn't nail that world under glass with Jaws"
Jaws pinball failed to create excitement and uniqueness
"I think both games are really good, I do, I think both Jaws and Elton John are really good pinball machines... these are great games that are just overpriced and that's just it. I think both of them suffer from post-COVID pricing"
Jaws and Elton John are both really good but overpriced games
"It is not the greatest pinball machine ever made. It is not Keith Owens greatest game to date, but hey, it's a brand new game. The honeymoon period is happening right now."
Jaws pinball is not actually the number one game of all time despite Pinside ranking
"I don't think Stern doesn't want you to get your $13,000 overpriced Jaws machine, trust me."
Jaws LE is overpriced at $13,000
"Jaws is not Keith Elwin's greatest design. It's not that spectacular to shoot. It's okay. It's not a bad game. It's not a bad game, but there's nothing in Jaws that is a wow, and I'm sorry, but at these prices people, every game should be a wow"
"I think Jaws is gonna go down just above Avengers when it comes to an Elwin game. I don't think it's gonna be what people, I think it's a theme that's very one dimensional. I think it shoots just fine, but it doesn't have wow shots."
Jaws pinball is underwhelming compared to other Keith Elwin games
"I still would not order the game right now... why would you order a Jaws right now in which the code is not done, and they might be overhauling the code and that's going to take a few months to do"
Don't order Jaws now - wait for code fixes and price drops
"I just want to tell you right now Jaws is a really slow movie. It's a slow movie like The Godfather and pinball is a fast-paced high energy game."
Jaws is not a good theme for pinball because it's too slow-paced compared to the high-energy nature of pinball games
"I can't believe I'm going to say this. But to me, Jaws Pinball, the most important element in this game is that shark popping up from underneath the playfield... I think the most important thing in this game, the most important toy, the most important feature is to maintain that shark popping up from underneath the playfield. If you lose that, I think you somewhat neuter this game."
The shark bash toy is the most important feature in Jaws, making the Pro version inferior
"I don't think the upper playfield does very much. I really don't... that upper playfield looks nothing like a ship. It doesn't look like the Orca at all. In fact, I'm kind of embarrassed that this is supposed to be the Orca in a world under glass in Jaws Pinball."
Jaws Premium upper playfield doesn't add much value and looks cheap
"Is it the second coming of pinball? Absolutely not. Is there a lot of innovation in the game? Absolutely not. But am I going to waste the small time I have on planet Earth? Arguing with people about it, like why argue about it? Just don't buy it."
Jaws pinball lacks innovation but people should stop arguing about it
"It's got an iconic theme with all of the assets. It's got a great layout, but it doesn't have great toys. It's never going to have great toys... it's never going to be one of Stern Pinball's most impressive mechanical games."
Jaws has 2 out of 3 elements (theme, layout) but lacks great toys and will never be one of Stern's most impressive mechanical games
"I think people are so burnt out after two years of these high prices. I think people are so burnt out of losing so much money on all these stern machines, and then Jaws comes out at $13,000"
Jaws pinball reception is disappointing due to player burnout from high prices
"I did find the gameplay in Jaws to be underwhelming. It just didn't feel like there was anything that was like, wow, like a magic moment in the gameplay itself."
Jaws pinball gameplay is underwhelming and lacks wow moments compared to Godzilla
"Keith makes it look easy, but I guarantee this is going to be a tough shooter as the pacing and hurry ups can force you to miss shots."
Prediction: JAWS will be a tough shooter due to its pacing and hurry-ups that can force players to miss shots.
"You're telling me two years later that Jaws pinball that is 30% more money has more mechanical magic in it, has more exciting things happening mechanically in it. It just does not, according to me"
JAWS LE lacks impressive mechanical features compared to Godzilla despite being 30% more expensive
"from a pure week one, mechanically it doesn't blow everyone away the way Godzilla did, but it's too early to call it not a Godzilla killer"
Jaws LE mechanically doesn't blow everyone away like Godzilla did but it's too early to call it not a Godzilla killer
"I don't think I could ever actually, with a straight face, own a pro version of this machine because of how silly it looks that a shark is floating in midair inside a shark cage, floating like a few inches above the playfield. It looks absolutely ridiculous, ladies and gentlemen."
Jaws Pinball Pro version looks absolutely ridiculous with the shark floating in midair
"It feels like a middle of the road par for the course Stern machine. It doesn't feel like something that took Godzilla and turns it up a notch... There's not much not to like, but there's not much to love. It just feels like, okay, we've seen this another Stern."
Jaws feels pedestrian and middle-of-the-road for Stern
"I think this is going to be Keith Elwin's best shooting game to date. I do, I think this is going to be his best, most satisfying game to shoot to date"
Jaws Pinball will be Keith Elwin's best shooting game despite having fewer mechanical features
"I don't know people, I really don't know what to tell you again I think this game is gonna shoot great I think it's gonna have elwin flow I think it's gonna have a lot of different shots to hit I think it's gonna be fun it's gonna be fun I just don't see the 13k here"
Jaws Pinball is overpriced at $13,000 - should be $10,000
"you see the shark mechanism in action and the shark doesn't do anything like the boat pops up and there's this rubber shark that looks like it's a little chew toy that my dog would play with or that Killian would play with in the bathtub and that's Jaws in Jaws Pinball"
Jaws shark mechanism is disappointing - looks like a cheap rubber toy
"when this thing drops, it's going to be like a seismic shift in the entire pinball marketplace... I think they're going to sell out of the LEs instantly. I think it's going to be a day one sell out."
Jaws will cause a seismic shift in the pinball marketplace and sell out instantly
"I think Jaws is going to sell out on day one of those 1000LEs. I think after two years of mediocre games at best, everyone's waiting for Keith Elwin's masterpiece is what I'm hearing it is."
Jaws will sell out on day one and be Keith Elwin's masterpiece
"I think you're going to see a day one sellout of JAWS LE at $13,000"
Keith Elwin's JAWS will be exception and sell out at $13k
"What there will be is a Newton ball that's on the playfield that you have to hit. And if you hit it enough times, then Jaws will pop up from underneath the playfield. So you heard it here first, a shark, a big shark with a Newton ball on top of its head."
Prediction: Jaws will feature a Newton ball on the playfield that when hit enough times will cause a shark to pop up from underneath the playfield.
"After hearing what this game is going to look like, I think it's gonna be an instant sell out... I'm not sure I would wait. I would be calling up your distributors tomorrow and try to get an LE spot, because they're gonna go like hotcakes."
Jaws will be an instant sellout and buyers shouldn't wait
"The person who saw this said that this is going to be Keith Elwin's masterpiece... The game is ripping killer and Keith Elwin's best to date."
Jaws will be Keith Elwin's masterpiece and his best game to date