James Bond

"James Bond is okay but look at the pin. It looks like a stern pin from 15 years ago. It doesn't pop."

James Bond pinball is underwhelming and looks outdated

"I think that the people who buy James Bond pro are going to get the best bang for the buck... the LE is twice the price now of James Bond pro"

James Bond Pro offers the best value compared to Premium and LE versions

"We all know the code is not going to be complete. We all know that Lonnie's not as good as Lyman Sheats. This game looks like a game that is shaping up a lot like Stranger Things. A year from now, I think this game is going to be great. Right now, do I think this game is going to be great? No."

James Bond will launch with incomplete code and won't be great initially, though Stern typically delivers eventually

"I don't think because of its slow rollout, this game is ever going to really land in the pinball world the way Godzilla did"

James Bond won't land like Godzilla due to slow rollout and incomplete code

"That is stupid. I'm just going to say from a macro level, looking at this thing, when I went on YouTube to catch it because I couldn't watch it live because I was traveling for business, I can't understand why Stern Pinball thinks the best way to show you a pinball machine for the first time being played is a two and a half hour stream."

Two and a half hour James Bond stream was stupid and too long for showing a pinball machine

"On a code standpoint though, this game is a total mess to watch right now. It is. If you watch this stream, I don't understand how you walk away from this game without feeling like the code is just not there to stream."

James Bond code is a total mess and not ready for streaming

"It is not going to be hard to get a James Bond LE. If you don't think so, go look at the marketplace on pinside. You could easily get this game right now for like $14,000, $15,000"

James Bond LE won't be hard to get despite hype

"Here's my prediction on the James Bond stream. I think the game is going to be a James Bond fans like Dream Come True because I think you're going to see a ton of clips. But I think people are going to start to look at all of these games like they're k"

Prediction: The James Bond game will be a dream come true for Bond fans with tons of clips, but people will start looking at these games like they're all similar.

"And I don't think James Bond's gonna be as good as Godzilla. I don't think it's gonna be one of the best Stern machines of all time. I just don't. I think it's gonna be good. I think it's gonna appeal to James Bond fanatics, but I just don't think this game is gonna be like, you know, oh my God, I gotta take out a second mortgage on the house to get one of these games."

James Bond won't be as good as Godzilla or one of the best Stern machines

"James Bond-LE at $13,000, we all know is overpriced. But here's what I'm really curious about is how can you then, if it's $13,000 for this game, there is no way they can charge $13,000 for Venom, right? A theme that doesn't have as much appeal as James Bond."

James Bond pricing analysis and future Stern pricing strategy

"I really have a hard time waking up and getting excited about a $13,000 Stern LE. It's impossible for me to get excited about Toy Story Collector's Edition at $15,000 and even the LE version of the game at $12,000."

James Bond LE at $13,000 is difficult to get excited about due to price

"I think they were contractually obligated by the Eon license holder of James Bond...to get these James Bond machines revealed this year because it is the 60th anniversary of James Bond"

James Bond pinball launch is poorly handled and rushed due to contractual obligations

"I think James Bond is going to go the same way as Stranger Things. I think this game on year one is possibly not going to be where it needs to be to be considered great from a code standpoint"

James Bond will follow same problematic code development path as Stranger Things

"I don't think any single level game should ever be worth $20,000. I don't care who's designing it. I don't care what the artwork is. I don't care how many movies it's based on."

Single level games should never be worth $20,000 regardless of designer or theme

"You will find distributors selling this game now for $14,500, $15,000, $16,000 firm. You know, there are going to be dealers out there that are going to hold back their allotment. I wouldn't be surprised if almost every distro now just holds one game back. And then six months from now, the only place on planet earth you can find a new inbox, James Bond, LE is with one of these distributors."

James Bond LE pricing and market dynamics - distributors holding back inventory to sell above MSRP

"I just, every time I look at the 60th anniversary edition, I don't see a $20,000 pin. I don't see a $15,000 pin. I don't see a $10,000 pin... But man, I just can't see anything north of like $12,000 when I look at that package on that 60th anniversary version."

Keith Elwin's 60th Anniversary James Bond not worth $20,000 price point

"When you saw that jet pack move across the playfield and drop the ball like a little squishy fart on top of the tank, don't lie to me. That was so underwhelming."

James Bond toys are underwhelming, especially the jetpack

"Just looking at this machine, this machine, and I'm just going to say this, this looks like a $6,000 machine at most. Maybe eight at most. Now here's the scary part. I am hearing rumors that they are going to price this machine. Around $20,000 is what distributors are going to ask for it."

James Bond 60th Anniversary pin looks like $6-8K machine but will cost $20K

"It is really hard when you look at the premium and then you look at the LE and the LE is $2,700 more than the premium of James Bond. Go look at those two games side by side. They are almost identical when it comes to the art packages, the color palette, everything. It's almost identical."

James Bond LE and Premium are nearly identical but $2,700 price difference

"It looks beautiful. I really do love the Thunderball art package. I've always loved the Thunderball art package. I like the armor on the machine. I just think the game looks really good."

James Bond LE looks beautiful but has some design flaws

"If you ordered this game through Stern pinball with shipping and with tax, it is like $14,500 now for a Stern LE in which they are making 1000 games. Just a few years ago, a Stern LE was $7,500. We are seeing right now about an 80% increase in the price of a Stern LE."

Stern LE pricing has reached unsustainable levels with 80% price increase

"I think this is George Gomez's most packed stern machine ever. Name me another Gomez pin at stern that has as much in it as this."

James Bond will be George Gomez's most packed Stern machine ever, more loaded than any previous Gomez game

"I think this is going to go down as the game of the year. I think everyone, even though we might be complaining about artwork, I think everyone's going to want one"

James Bond will be game of the year despite artwork concerns

"maybe all three of these are just Trojan horses to get us to buy the Keith Elwin version of the game"

The three announced James Bond versions are Trojan horses to sell the Keith Elwin version

"I think the art package on these three games might be hideous, but maybe the Keith Elwin game is going to look a lot better"

The art package on the three announced James Bond games might be hideous

"I think they need to accept 100% blame here because I've launched products at trade shows. It is not that hard to keep a pinball machine a secret until you're ready to show the world. It's actually so easy."

Stern is 100% to blame for James Bond leak - should have used basic security measures

"I think the response is pretty universally this. Everybody loves the fun mechs in this game. And I think almost everybody out there thinks the artwork is a letdown."

Community loves James Bond mechs but thinks artwork is disappointing

"So the mystery version of James Bond is going to be a pinball machine based on the 60th anniversary of James Bond, and it is a completely different game from the George Gomez game, and it is being designed by Keith Elwin."

James Bond pinball will have a secret fourth version designed by Keith Elwin, separate from George Gomez's versions, that will be made-to-order with distributor-set pricing

"This is one of the most packed stern machines of all time. This game has so many toys in which every single toy in this game, everything I'm looking at interacts with the ball."

James Bond pinball mechanics and toys are outstanding

"I will not allow anyone out there to say, it looks pretty good. No, it does not look good. The art on this game, it looks like when Stern was making games like Elvis and the Sopranos, okay?"

James Bond pinball artwork is a major step backward

"I also am going to die on this hill, Bill Brandis. I think they are making four versions of this game... And then there's a special mystery game. And that is going to be the high end. It is going to be the 60th anniversary James Bond game, much like Elvira."

There will be a fourth mystery James Bond edition

"I think James Bond is going to be based on four Sean Connery movies. And I think what happened is the person who told me Thunderball I think Stern is probably going to use artwork from each of these movies and make four different James Bond cabinets."

James Bond pinball will feature four Sean Connery movies with different cabinet variants

"James Bond as a theme, it makes sense for pinball. It hits the pinball demographic, but I am also not really excited about James Bond. I won't be buying one to keep. I might be buying one to flip, but I won't be buying one to keep."

James Bond as Stern's next title - not excited, will buy to flip but not keep

"I expect there to be versions of James Bond that Stern will sell through its distributors at around Elvira 40th prices. So they are going to give the games to distributors for $15,000 and then distributors can price them as they see fit. Get ready to see distributors test the waters at $30,000. You're hearing it here first"

Distributors will test $30,000 pricing for James Bond pinball machines

"It's been done and nobody got excited. The Golden Eyes didn't sell, the timed Gottlieb James Bond didn't sell. It didn't sell them, it's not gonna sell now."

James Bond theme won't work - has failed multiple times

"then you're gonna see James Bond to keep the Wind 60th anniversary machine December 15th"

James Bond 60th anniversary machine announcement

"I really have a hard time waking up and getting excited about a $13,000 stern elite. It's impossible for me to get excited about Toy Story Collector's Edition at $15,000"

James Bond LE at $13,000 is hard to get excited about due to price

"Last night's pinball stream of James Bond's 60th, I think, was one of the lowest periods in pinball since I've been covering this hobby."

James Bond 60th at $19,995 represents the lowest point in pinball history due to greed

"This is a Stern home edition, this is worth like $5,000 to $7,000 at most. And the game itself is all over the place, it's a mess, you don't need the scoring reels, you don't add anything to the game, you've got no call outs, there's no real innovation on the playfield whatsoever, you've got barely any code in the game."

James Bond 60th is overpriced by $13,000-15,000 and lacks content